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  • If a good horse has a bad gene why breed it

 
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    08-25-2009, 01:12 AM
  #1
Foal
Angry Why?!?!?!

I don't understand why there are all these people still breeding horses when there are tons of horses in need of homes. You could easily find a horse that is in a rescue that is able to do what you ask. People just don't want a crossbred or an unregistered horse. Or a person want a horse so they can train it themselves well there are a lot of them in need of homes too people. These things irk me majorly. It makes me want to become a vet so I can "accidentally" castrate a stud that is able to castrated without any problems. I know this seems like a rude post but I really don't care. People are dumb and clueless. There isn't any excuse to breed all these horses when there are so many that need homes.
     
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    08-25-2009, 02:53 AM
  #2
Foal
Well I think your comments are really naive my mare has navicular and without me taking her on as a broodmare her old owner was going to put her to sleep as she was heartbroken of the thought of her being over used and in pain as people do. Why penalise people who take care of there horses and want to breed when it’s the people who mistreat horses you should be giving your nasty comments to. Don’t get me wrong I understand what your saying but at the same time that’s like me saying ‘how could all you stupid couple’s out there keep having children when there’s children out there that need to be adopted???’
     
    08-25-2009, 07:32 AM
  #3
Green Broke
^ very true!
     
    08-25-2009, 07:39 AM
  #4
Yearling
and I thought they only argued this in the dog forum....
     
    08-25-2009, 08:10 AM
  #5
Weanling
I plan on breeding my mare hopefully one day. I might ask people's opinions but in the end it is my decision and just because there are irresponsible people out there doesn't mean that everyone can't breed their mare!!! JMI
     
    08-25-2009, 08:35 AM
  #6
Green Broke
I have no issue with responsible breeding of any animal. I agree that there is a LOT of irresponsible breeding in the horse industry right now (and I'm not talking about the backyard stuff - the worst of it, imo, is in the industries such as racing, etc where massive overbreeding creates such a surplus of horses). However, OP, I think your message/point is lost in your hysterics.
     
    08-25-2009, 08:47 AM
  #7
dee
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I am a bit ambivilent about this subject. I agree that irresponsible breeding should be banned. However, I also would like to see families that want a horse be able to afford a good quality horse - assuming they have the means to care for it. By quality horse, I do not mean it has to be purebred, but one that has the conformation, soundness and temperment suitable for the job it is intended for.

Then, you have people like my son-in-law that have a registered paint stallion with good bloodlines that is NOT a good representative of the breed, is jug headed, cow hocked, bad tempered etc that should NEVER be used for breeding. However, SIL thinks he's going to make a mint in stud fees. I did not want my mare bred to this stallion (I really didn't want her bred at all - I love her but am not sure she's quality enough to want to reproduce), but the SIL had other ideas and turned the stupid thing loose in the pasture with my mare and his wife's mare (who is painfully skinny because the SIL refused to pull her 14 month old colt off of her because it was so kyoot watching them together). Now we have two probably pregnant mares that are bred to a stallion that shouldn't be used for breeding. Who knows what we will come up with. Daughter and I have already decided that the stallion will be gelded the first time the SIL has his back turned!

Sorry for the rant, I hate irresponsible breeders like the son in law that do not stop to think about what kind of horse they will be producing. Breeders of unregistered horses who place a great deal of thought into what they are producing are a different category altogether.
     
    08-25-2009, 09:01 AM
  #8
Yearling
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Originally Posted by karlene    
Well I think your comments are really naive my mare has navicular and without me taking her on as a broodmare her old owner was going to put her to sleep as she was heartbroken of the thought of her being over used and in pain as people do. Why penalise people who take care of there horses and want to breed when itís the people who mistreat horses you should be giving your nasty comments to. Donít get me wrong I understand what your saying but at the same time thatís like me saying Ďhow could all you stupid coupleís out there keep having children when thereís children out there that need to be adopted???í
My first response is, I can't believe you just compared breeding horses to breeding children.

My second response is, why did you have to make the horse a broodmare? What's wrong with retiring her as a pasture mate or companion horse?

Responsible breeding is fine. I feel if someone intends to show horses, etc, then buying from a breeder is logical. However, the OP does have a point. For your average trail riding, tinkering in the arena horse owner, having a registered $15,000 horse is crazy talk. JMO though. I don't care what other people do so long as they aren't abusing the horses they have.

I'm not a fan of backyard breeders, nor of those who want to breed their pretty horse just to have a baby, but I am in no position to tell them what to do.
     
    08-25-2009, 09:31 AM
  #9
Super Moderator
I think breeding a horse is a responsibility that should be taken very seriously, however I don't think it's anyone elses right to decide whether or not it is my right to breed my mare or not. She has great bloodlines, terrific conformation, and a great attitude. Should I choose to breed her, it would be because I have the facility and the money to do so. I don't think I should have to have a liscense to do it, or to get anyones permission.

I also think that too many people rush out and "rescue" a horse thinking they are doing the greater good or getting a good deal. I think it is wrong for people to just run out and "rescue" a horse, or a dog for that matter. If you don't have the money to care for this animal and it's potential needs then you need to double think yourself. If you don't have the training or experience then why would anyone think it's fair for a green rider/owner to run out and get an animal that has already suffered? Why cause that animal even more suffering because the person simpley does not have the experience or the know-how to deal with this animal? It isn't always black beauty and love fixing everything. There is a matter of building trust and there are issues that are formed when an animal is abused and you have to know how to deal with them!

And what is wrong with making a horse that is lame or not useful to ride into a broodmare if it is conformational flaweless and has great bloodlines? Although, it really isn't always about bloodlines.

I need caffiene.
     
    08-25-2009, 01:55 PM
  #10
Foal
Hi, I wasn’t comparing a foal to a baby, though a lot of people think of their foal’s as babies, I’m expecting my first foal and I’m nearly as excited as I was when I was expecting my son! I was just saying hypothetically.
When the old owner of my mare found out that she had navicular she knew she couldn’t just keep her as a companion as most people can't for money reason’s , she’s a 16.2 warmblood sports horse type that has to be kept in a stable in the winter months and fed quite a lot so as far as a companion goes not many people could afford to take her on. So I was looking for a broodmare for personal reasons as I want to breed a mare for myself and ebony has really good line’s and has a beautiful nature so I took her on where her and my other mare spend there summer months in a 10acre field and winter months in at night.
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