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    10-23-2012, 12:41 PM
  #21
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Originally Posted by BlazingFameStables    
Y.Y you'll see one day... everybody laughed and criticized the Wright brothers too... and look who came up with the first flying machine. Now, I think I've said my piece and defended it well. If anyone else wants to say something to bring me down, forget it, you're not changing this stubborn mule's mind.
You're comparing yourself to the WRIGHT BROTHERS?!

My goodness, delusions of grandeur much?

You haven't defended anything well. You know less than nothing about breeding quality animals, and your 'wonderful' mutts will end up at auction with all the other grades bred by people just like you, who don't have a clue but do have egos the size of Chicago.
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    10-23-2012, 12:42 PM
  #22
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Originally Posted by NdAppy    
Head stuck in the sand much?
Well, I was thinking their head was stuck, but have to admit sand isn't the place I had in my mind...........
     
    10-23-2012, 12:44 PM
  #23
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by themacpack    
Well, I was thinking their head was stuck, but have to admit sand isn't the place I had in my mind...........
Which makes sense, if you think about it, as that seems to be the same orifice they are talking out of.....
     
    10-23-2012, 12:44 PM
  #24
Trained
Mine either Mac, but that was the most appropriate place to mention on the forum.
     
    10-23-2012, 12:45 PM
  #25
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer    

GH, I have nothing against mutts either, but I say if you want a mutt go the animal shelter; don't breed your own. So many of these 'designer' animals wind up there anyway, so if you're determined to get a Sheltipoo or some other mish-mash you can find one without having to pay some exorbitant price. Same goes for horses. Plenty of 'hybrid vigor' grades in rescues and at auction. No reason at all to breed any more of them.

Agree to a point, one example, I love Haflingers, and to me they should be short square little ponies/horses, and I am really sad to see them creeping up above 15hh, it is just wrong. In a way I would rather see someone having a program to breed Haflinger x TB for instance, to fulfill that market.

I am happy enough with a first cross, bred for a purpose, but you can't keep adding a touch of this, and a pinch of that hoping for the best.

Blazing, you have not made your point or defended it well, I don't see what you are going to bring to the horse world with your aim, you say you want:

Endurance/stamina
Speed
Jump ability
Beauty
Good size but not huge, just big enough to get over higher obstacles but small enough a short person (4'9-5'6) can get on without much difficulty.


A chunky type Arab will do all that, or a QH, Welsh section D, Andalusian, and loads of others that I haven't thought of yet, no need to design something to do it all, they already exist.
     
    10-23-2012, 12:45 PM
  #26
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GH, I've been upset about where they're taking the Arabian breed, as well. If you want a horse that looks like a Saddlebred, then buy a danged Saddlebred! Don't try to 'improve' a breed out of its original breed characteristics and standards.
     
    10-23-2012, 12:45 PM
  #27
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
You're comparing yourself to the WRIGHT BROTHERS?!

My goodness, delusions of grandeur much?

You haven't defended anything well. You know less than nothing about breeding quality animals, and your 'wonderful' mutts will end up at auction with all the other grades bred by people just like you, who don't have a clue but do have egos the size of Chicago.
So true, Speed. Not to mention those horses that go to auction are less than likely to find a loving home if there actually is something wrong with them to make them end up in that situation.

And I'd actually say this person's self-importance is more the size of Australia...
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    10-23-2012, 01:01 PM
  #28
Foal
I'm not being irresponsible, and I am not being childish. I have studied a bit about genetics so that I can roughly estimate what will come out. And in my mind's eye, I estimate it will be a champion. So, thanks for your opinions, but I would like encouragement or even suggestions now, not criticism.
     
    10-23-2012, 01:08 PM
  #29
Green Broke
Suggestion: breed for designer dogs, not horses.

You don't have near enough experience to start breeding horses. It's not just something you decide to do on a whim. It takes years of learning about breeding, personal experiences with breeders, and more knowledge on the subject than you seem to posses.

On another point, with how the industry is looking now, no one should be breeding horses, much less breeding grades. There are MORE than enough horses/prospects/foals out there now..Many unwanted horses that could use good homes.
     
    10-23-2012, 01:12 PM
  #30
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Originally Posted by BlazingFameStables    
I'm not being irresponsible, and I am not being childish. I have studied a bit about genetics so that I can roughly estimate what will come out. And in my mind's eye, I estimate it will be a champion. So, thanks for your opinions, but I would like encouragement or even suggestions now, not criticism.
Your mind's eye is lying to you. You see what you want to see, and are disregarding anyone or anything that says otherwise.

You most certainly are being irresponsible and childish, and I could never condone, encourage, or even suggest anything other than studying more than 'a bit' about genetics before you decide to bring another life into the world.

C'mon, how old are you anyway? 15? 16? You're obviously not a preteen, but you can't be any older than 18-20 with that attitude.

Even your user name is ego-driven. BlazingFAMEStables. Oh my no, you're not thinking about your own fame and glory at all, are you? Only concerned with the quality of the lives you're planning on bringing into the world.
     

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