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post #1 of 74 Old 03-05-2013, 03:09 PM Thread Starter
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Exclamation The worst reasons for breeding your mare.

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A response to a question I asked on Facebook this morning.

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OK, my beautiful Emmy, who I posted about on a local trainers board this morning.

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I have a gorgeous arab mare, well started a few years back under English saddle, but has had a couple of years off. She is highly reactive, read scaredy cat, but is getting better as we work together on the ground. I would like to start her again western, and am debating the pros and cons of sending her out to be restarted, or working with her myself with a trainers help.

I think it may be better for us to keep building our relationship, but am only to well aware if my shortcomings as a rider. IF I do decide to send her out it would need to be the right person, this girl is basically kind and willing, and I wouldn't want her to be pressured in the wrong way.

Talk to me of trainers that may help her start again and get confidence in herself, or the pros and cons of her and I working with someone to get confidence in each other.

one of the responses I got included this.

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Also there is ******* My current full time working student that's amazing as well but has her hands full with ours right now.
Trying to get ***** Out here!
Then we can take on more

Also has this mare had a foal, cause this can really settle down mares.
My bolding.

I did have to point out, that while I would love to have a foal from her, and I already have a stud picked out for her, the fact that I have a youngster already, and don't need another means that I don't want to breed her for a keeper foal. I also can't see that she has much to add to the current market, I would rather breed her IF she achieves something than just as a way to possibly calm her down.

Oh, and I can 60 days under saddle for her just for the cost of the stud fee, without all the other costs involved.

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post #2 of 74 Old 03-05-2013, 03:19 PM
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Lol, years ago I had a moody, sometimes perfect, sometimes witchy, maiden mare. At shows, I would either walk away with High Point or nothing, depended on her mood. I bred her and her mood swings stopped but only when she was pregnant, and of course I only showed her in the first few months of her being bred, after the foal was weaned, she went back to being her moody old self. So that reason would be not a permanent cure!
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"I want a foal for my kid to grow up with." That will make their bond so super duper speshul and they'll love each other forever .

Or, "I want a piece of my mare before she gets too old". Yep, because every baby is a carbon copy of their mother LOL. I've also noticed that most the folks who "just want a piece of their beloved mare" own a mare that is nice enough...but nothing really spectacular....in any way.

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I think if a person has a full intention on breeding a horse, and picks the stud on nothing but color because you want X color foal, that's poor decision making. I mean, don't get me wrong, go ahead an have your preferred color! But take everything into account BEFORE the color. It's perfectly reasonable to want a blue roan stud, and to look around for a great stud with great confo in the color you want - but to just look for any Blue Roans and find the one that looks the best color wise so you can have your pretty colored baby... Not very wise to me.

As a side note - I can see this thread potentially becoming very heated, despite your warnings. Let's keep it civil, people. :)

Also, I just noticed the thread is "Worst reasons for breeding you mare," and I answered "Worst reasons for breeding." My bad. It kind of still applies... But I can't delete my post so it will stay here!
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Whoa, what a crazy reason to settle down a horse, lol. Josie actually went from miss sweet and innocent to miss bratty cathy when she had her foal. She was good as long as he was with her, but when you rode off without him, it'd stress her out. Since then, she's had more of an apt to bond to a horse and look for said horse when we ride off alone, lol, so I'd say she didn't really settle down at all!

Is such a statement even valid? I've had so few bred mares, I can't make that judgement. Josie did change a bit in her personality sometimes throughout her pregnancy, she is still the same horse after giving birth as she was before.

Lmao, I just can't believe someone would say something like that! Forget training, lets breed her to calm her down!! XD
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Some people do that... there was this nasty mare that they bred just to get her to calm down rather than face her aggressive issues. She'd kick people without any real indication of a warning.

I was very stern with her and she NEVER struck out at me. And I'm the only one that could get her to trot/move out. She was very lazy and sluggish with others. I'm pretty sure it was her being stubborn...

She did mellow out after having a baby...for a bit. Then she went back to kicking people, biting people, and refusing to move out. Except for me ;)

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I hate when people breed their horse because it is unrideable, whether it be crazy or broken down from bad conformation. Its one thing if they were in an accident and got injured that way, but mystery lameness and bad confo/feet is a huge NO !
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A lot of people think that TU. IMPO it's like saying lets have a baby because it will make me calmer! *headdesk*
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The one that bothers me most is "I just want to keep a piece of my mare because I love her sooooo much." Nevermind she's a conformational train wreck, or is a who knows what/hasn't been tested. To those I silently ask "What if you lose the mare you love so much and end up with a pita orphan goal that you can't give away?".

Or untrained, unsound mares. Well she went lame let's turn her into a baby factory. Never understood that one at all.
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