Would this be a good match up? **SCENARIO**

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Would this be a good match up? **SCENARIO**

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        06-19-2014, 08:35 PM
    Would this be a good match up? **SCENARIO**

    ****JUST A SCENARIO****
    What do you all think about this match up?
    Mare: Luna. 07' Bay TB, 16 hands. JC registered. HUS and Jumper.

    Stallion: Saint Sandro. 07' Black Oldenburg, 15.3 hh. Oldenburg NA. Dressage, Cross Country and Jumping.
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        06-19-2014, 08:45 PM
    Not a mare I would breed, so no.
        06-19-2014, 08:52 PM
    May I ask why? Also her Reg. Name is Hasty's Class Act and she is an 05' mare.
        06-19-2014, 08:57 PM
    The mare has no qualities I want to see in a foal from that picture posted.
        06-19-2014, 09:04 PM
    Originally Posted by Tryst    
    Not a mare I would breed, so no.
    Agreed, also looks like she could really use some groceries before having a foal.
        06-19-2014, 09:05 PM
    Another picture of Luna

    Another of Saint Sandro

    And comments on his confo:
    HEAD: Very typey head with wide set eyes, and short straight profile. Consistently "prettying up" the heads in his foals.
    NECK: Well set on, carried from top through to poll, with good length and clean throat latch. He greatly improves on neck set, carriage, and length.
    SHOULDER/WITHER/SADDLE POSITION: Saint was used as an example to have a "PERFECT" shoulder with 45deg shoulder angle, but more impressively coupled with the ideal 90deg shoulder to elbow connection. To have one or the other is great, but to find both in a shoulder is extremely rare. This correctness allows for full range of correct usage of shoulder. The wither flows very smoothly into the back, with a wide set. Saint is in a WIDE saddle and does not throw narrow. We would not recommend him to those looking for a more narrow build. He is passing on big free moving shoulders in his foals with correct saddle placements.
    LOIN/CROUP: Short, very strong loin with extremely forward placed LS joint placement and long croup. This is Saint's most impressive and important conformation quality he consistently passes on. It is extremely rare to find a stallion with a strong loin connection where the LS joint is IN FRONT OF the point of hip. Even more rare is to find the stallion with the ability the ability to consistently shorten and strengthen the loin and bring the LS connection forward no matter how distal placed or weak the mares LS connection may be. We would not recommend Saint to lengthen a mare.
    FORELEGS: Long forearm with clearance of elbow in heart-girth, short cannons with dense bone, nicely sloping med length strong pasterns, and tough correct hooves. The front the legs are VERY straight and correct with true tracking in all gaits and no interference. He does not wing or paddle. Foals are very correct and straight tracking in their gaits. Although Saint himself is not excessively 'leggy' looking, we have found he throws VERY "leggy" foals (foals with LONG legs) and would not recommend him to shorten leg on a mare.
    HINDLEGS: Very deep set hip with low point of hip, connected to high placed stifle. This lends to a very desirable 'tight" triangle within the hind quarters. Impressive 'spring like" angulation of joint connections through stifle, gaskin, and hock continuing down the leg and it is this compilation between hindquarter and leg that allow for Saint's ability to have his hind end reach actually up under and to his wither with an unusually huge overtrack and allow for sit, push, and carrying power behind. It is very rare to see such defined, strong angulations in a hind end. All foals have this incredible hind end.
        06-19-2014, 09:06 PM
    Originally Posted by EponaLynn    
    Agreed, also looks like she could really use some groceries before having a foal.
    Again just a scenario and I am working on bringing up her weight.
        06-19-2014, 09:22 PM
    New Match Up

    What do you all think of this match up?
    Mare: Dilly. 06' Bay 14.2 hands. AQHA Reg. Western Pleasure.

    Stallion: A Jet Set Play Boy. 99' Black 15 hands. AQHA Reg. Western Pleasure.

        06-20-2014, 10:13 AM
    Since you asked.... The First mare- plain head, upright shoulder, long back, weak coupling, light bone, too long pasterns... Not qualities I would want passed on to the foal. Better off leasing a really quality mare to breed than breeding this one.

    Second mare looks higher quality, and overall better put together, but hind pasterns are very upright, almost knuckled over. I don't like the second stallion much either... Long backed, back at the knee. He also doesn't look like modern WP style. The photos are not very flattering to him because of how he is standing too, so different photos might show him to be different than what he looks like here.
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        06-20-2014, 11:08 AM
    Thanks! Would the second mare and first stallion be a better match up?

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