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Accidentally bought Hanoverian Stallion. Input needed

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View attachment 650634 Through the course of a few trades, we've acquired an underweight 16.3hh Hanoverian Stud. He has quite the checkered past and we're hoping for some input on his bloodlines. He will be gelded as soon as he is well enough to withstand the surgery. We're unfamiliar with Hanoverians and are interested in finding out more. I'll attemp to post pictures of his papers and a few of him. Please don't judge....we bought him to save him from his former situation. View attachment 650634
 
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I don't know much about a Hannoverian as far as blood lines go but work with two Hannoverian/Holsteiner cross geldings and their temperament is wonderful. Very curious, kind, quick learners....

Can't wait to see how he is once you get weight on him, start him working and is given love and kindness. Good for you for taking him in and doing this.
 
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He is beautifully bred for dressage. Donnerhall and Rubinstein are both known for producing nice dressage horses. Rubinstein tends to throw a bit hot but where hes a few generations back im not to worried as Donnerhall is known for good temperament. Some tlc and you should have a really nice horse on your hands.
 
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Is he branded? With such nice pedigree I almost wonder if he has been inspected. He looks nicely put together. Im jealous of your find. Hanovarians are a beautiful breed. Very intelligent and eager to please. Next to Trakehner they are my favorite warmblood.
 
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I had a three year old stallion out of Don Frederico and a Weltmeyer mother. I gelded him, but again an absolute gem of a horse. I adore donnerhall lines. I've some experience with Rubenstein lines, and found them to be honest workers, but memories of an elephant... There are two that stick out in my mind whose owners were too rough and tough and they just got harder and harder until they were dead heads.

He looks like a lovely boy, the lines together should make him an even tempered animal! Best of luck!
 
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He is branded and from the little we know of him, he passed his prelim inspections? Somehow, he just kept falling through cracks. We now know that he was born a little premature and that his hocks are fused. He *may* have been started at some point. He trots off very correct and sound now. Its difficult to get much of a history on him as his previous owner was far from truthful with us. As it stands, he will gain 200+ pounds, get gelded and be started. He'll likely be the only Rheinland/Hannoverian horse at the brandings we attend! LOL
 
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He has the same head and eye as Dubai! I'll see if I can dig out a three year old picture of when I first bought him home!

I hesitate to ask, because I was bitten by this....have you had a vet see him? Dubai passed a three stage vetting, and as a largely unbroken youngster, I didn't bother with X-rays. A year later I had to move with my job, and the new area was too expensive for me, and he was too small and young for my dad to share. I sold him, for double what I paid. The buyer wanted to X-ray his legs as apparently Weltmeyer lines are known to get navicular. He had a broken bone in one of his hind legs from foal age, never had an issue with big movement etc, and three vets said he'd last two or twenty years. Two years on he's doing fantastically with my old trainer.
 
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He was X-rayd during a friend of a friends PPE. I don't yet have copies of those X-rays but we were told by a good source that they showed he had fused hocks but they were stable. That person passed on him because his previous owner (who we bought him from) was just a little too untruthful about him. Also, she was looking for a jumping prospect and she was concerned about his hicks. Apparently the vet was fairly confident that he'd stay sound but again, this is all second hand. We hope to get the X-rays. I wish they'd worked on his manners and socialization more....he's really lovely and we have the capability to keep a stud...but his current behavior isn't acceptable. He's a fast learner but I fear the lack of manners and abundance of testosterone is a poor combination. He's only been allowed near mares he was breeding....now he sees a horse (we have all geldings right now) and is instantly ready to go. The vet will be out next week to asses his condition and to schedule his gelding. Thank you so much for your input! I look forward to sharing his journey!
 
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He looks nice, I don't know much about warmblood type breeds, I am just a stock person. He is handsome though, keep us updated.
 
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Obviously, Donnerhall and Rubinstein I are the big names in his pedigree, although they are further back.
Don Frederico, your guy's grandfather, was also a very successful dressage horse with equally successful offspring.
The dad, Delacroix, is approved, but hasn't done nearly as much in the sport as his ancestors.

While the big names in the pedigree are mostly dressage bred, both grandmothers bring quite a bit of TB to the table. I am assuming to increase versatility?

Maybe he could develop into an eventer somewhere down the road, if his hocks hold up to the job, that is.
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Although we really enjoy riding a nice stud, with him coming to us at this age, a lot of bad habits might be a little too ingrained. If we work on someones ranch for a week, the horses normally get turned out with the cavvy. To keep him separated isn't just difficult, but a matter of health. Our horses get worked hard when it's there turn, and some room to run, with green grass keeps them healthy, and in the shape needed to perform like that. Right now he is in a pen by himself, and until his testosterone dramatically lowers after gelding, he will probably have to stay there.
I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to posting pictures of him dragging calves, and choking bulls. I've also recently learned about working a horse with a garrocha, and will be incorporating that in his training.
 
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Just an update on our friend Schwarz. His manners have come such a long way! He is respectful and very sweet to be around. He is still a stallion (not much longer!) but has become a gentleman. We work him lightly in the round pen every day and he gets loved on. He has gained around 100 pounds but has at least another 100 to go. He will likely be gelded next week along with having his teeth done. We had our bodywork expert out to work him and that's when his gentle, loving side really started to show. Well try to update when we can! He should be lightly started next month!
 

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