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  • Changes over the last 200 years for the american saddlebred horse
  • How to make an american saddlebred smooth

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    07-10-2012, 12:51 AM
  #31
Yearling
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Ah yes. Those dreaded evil show horse breeders, trainers, owners supporters. Yes, the breed has changed in the last 200 years. Yes the breed has changed in the last 50 years. Yes, the breed has changed in the last 20 years. 10 years even. The influence of circumstances will change the breed. As horses were phased out of being necessities for farming and transportation, so their jobs were altered. As time progresses, there will be yet more changes to the breed in appearance, abilty, form, and function. Some lines are still true to form, and not these dainty little whisps. If you study the stallions available today(check out futurity auctions this coming spring) you can find many a horse of substance and still be appealing to modern show peoples.
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You're hard pressed to find a great many naturally gaited Saddlebreds (most are taught) and finding some with a cannon bone greater than 7.5" is an even tougher job. That's the reason I own a cross. I knew the odds of getting a gaited one was slim to none, but at least I have 9.5" cannon bones that will be 10+" before I start to ride long distances. Won't be as smooth, but as gaited, but that's my body's problem. At least they'll hold up for thousands of miles and might even manage 300 miles in a week.
Far easier to find a strong cross that still has the Saddlebred heart than the old style Saddlebred. I've seen some, but they are few and far between and the few who own them know what they have and are in no hurry to part with them.
30 years ago in AZ I rode a wonderful Saddlebred gelding that was such a horse and the mount of a very happy soldier at Ft Huachuca who rode him with the local Cav unit. He was the most robust, strong and easy gaited Saddlebred I've ever ridden (although he may have been pacing....didin't matter to me, since he wasn't in shows).
Yes, for those who want to do shows it doen't matter that the strong, robust Saddlebred is replaced by a prancing peacock. They don't need the Saddlebred of old and the functions for which the old Saddlebred was so prized are not in demand. Of course the Saddlebred isn't alone in this. TWH and other popular show breed have suffered to some degree from the same desire to produce horses with show traits above those traits that made them so popular to begin with.
But who knows. With the bad press that show horse training has been getting perhaps in time the pendulum will swing back the other way. Not in time for me to see the difference in my lifetime. I watched it continue to swing in one direction. Doubtful that I'd live long enough to see it reach the opposite site even if it starts in my lifetime.
No matter. People use cross breeding to make the improvements. Just wish someone could make a cross that could bring back the natural gaiting with a high degree of regularity.
     
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    07-10-2012, 04:21 AM
  #32
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Saddlebreds are, and have always been primarily trotting horses with the natural ability to learn and maintain the lateral gaits. This comes from the main horse the saddlebred came from which is the thoroughbred. Essentially, they took the TB and added to it to create a type. The foundation sire of the breed, Denmark, was a thoroughbred. Some of the earliest developers of the saddles were said to have believed that only TBs of a certain type were suitable for being "Saddlers". Regional differences in the development of the breed also played heaviliy on the gaits. As for natural smooth gaits, they took a primary trotter, usually a top thoroughbred, and crossed it with your narangansett pacers, your standardbreds, which were developing around the same time, and Morgans. They were never intended to be a strictly natural gaited horse. So many things affected the breeds development.

You can really see where two of the most famous family lines "back in the day" are still prevalent today. Those from the family of Bourbon Chief were characterized by scale, substance, and motion. These were often plain and coarse but performed so brilliantly as to surpass such flaws. Those from the family of Gaines Denmark are characterized by their style, finesse, and quality, their main criticism was that they seemed to lack in size and sturdy bone.

Sounds familiar eh? The same complaints and criticisms are still rampant today. And though you may not believe it, horses of substance do exist and are quite prevalent still. You will find these among your true five gaited prospects(not your naturally gaited horses which are rare and kind of undesirable all the way around). Among the true five gaited horses you will find size and substance, and power. Your three gaited horses are where you will see a lot of the fine and dainty ones among show horses. A fine and dainty horse just won't hold up to the rigors of a five gaited competition. I love them all.
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    09-28-2012, 08:00 PM
  #33
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As posted on the ASHA Facebook page:

What are you planning on doing with your Saddlebreds this weekend?

For me, I am going to go play with my yearlings, help dad with his gaited filly, possibly convince myself to ride one of them, and hopefully hang out with my brood mare a bit. It will be fun! I love weekends off!
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    09-28-2012, 08:08 PM
  #34
Yearling
I made the decision to put one of my Saddlebred crosses up for sale,so I'm hoping to find a buyer soon;this weekend would be nice.. *crosses fingers and toes*
     
    09-28-2012, 08:18 PM
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Oh my me too! I just don't have time for my three year old anymore, and he is not the type to forgive an inconsistent schedule, so it would be best for both of us!

Good luck with yours!
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    09-28-2012, 08:35 PM
  #36
Yearling
Thanks,and you with yours!
     
    09-28-2012, 08:51 PM
  #37
Yearling
Saddlebreds have always been my favorite breed. I too like some of the old breeding. I am always surprised when I hear people say "oh they are so hot you can't trust them" or "they are not safe" because I have had some that were just amazing with anyone and anything.

I had one mare that was out of a Kouragous Kalu mare and a woman was marveling at how lovely she was and offered to buy her right then and there (mind you she wasn't for sale) She asked about the horses blood lines and then with drew her very large offer saying "Kalu horses are NUTS" ha ha Oddly enough, that mare was such a love. I let a theraputic riding group use her with the handicapped children for one season while I was too busy to do much with her. She was amazing them too.

I still believe that they are the best breed and likely always will.

I hope you guys find amazing homes for your horses, it is sad when life takes turns we cannot control. Rehoming a much loved horse is never easy.
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    09-28-2012, 10:22 PM
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Yeah, some people( my family included) do not get along with Kalu bred horses. There is just something about them! THAT BEING SAID one of the best stallions we have stood in the last few years was Kalu bred on his dam's side. I love that stallion.
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    09-29-2012, 04:52 AM
  #39
Yearling
Have you had any Baron De Bastrop horses? I had a few and LOVED them too.

Older breeding of course but, nice horses. Well put together and wonderful "can do" attitudes. Did I mention, pretty? Ha ha
     

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