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#1 ·
Hey Y'all!!!! My name is Mary Jane, and I just joined the forum!! I'm 19 and attending University of Kentucky, but i'm from North Carolina....I've been riding for about 11 years, and i had to sell both of my babies (a palomino and a sorrel paint) to come here to UK. I ride english pleasure and hunter/jumper.... but anyways, i would like as many opinions as possible about Appy's because this summer (in like 2 weeks when i get out from school) I am going back home to train a green Appy....and i've never worked w/ one!! I'm super excited b/c i haven't had a training project in a while b/c of school, but i don't know much about the breed....are they like QH?? Ok well thanks y'all!! :D
 
#2 ·
well it really depends. They have more english like qualities to me but they do good western. Also there gaits seem very dressage like from the appaloosa i see at the barn but i think the appaloosa at the barn has another breed in it too i'm not sure. I don't exactly know much but i can tell you what a Leopard appaloosa, blanket, and solid appaloose look like.
 
#3 ·
Appy's are extremely intelligent( sometimes stubborn b/c they are intelligent), brave, and love people. i think they have wonderful personalities. treats can go a long way with training. i think you are going to have great success. Good luck.

i can't say they are like QH in training situations. Appies are alwasy thinking of what they can get into or looking off into the distance for something more interesting to do. they need to be into everything.
 
#5 ·
:lol: Thats funny as long as he was okay.

I don't know much about appy behavior, but I personally think appys are very pretty. The mascot for my hometeam in (american)football, FSU, has a appy that runs across the field with a rider dressed as an indian during half time. Thats always my favorite part. I have some pictures :D
 
#6 ·
aww cool

and yes he was ok. Its just halarious he's a idotic horse anyway. He is very skittish and gets scared over stupid stuff but yet he's the boss to all the other horse?? :?: yes very weird. Junior and him are pretty much the top but i think Junior over powers him sometimes.
 
#8 ·
aww he's pretty this is the horse that i'm talking about at the barn





heres a video were my best friend likes to take care of him every now and then even though its not her horse. Don't worry the owner knows. Yeah this was a demonstration of how we thought he would be a good halter horse since he can't ride very good at the moment.

walking


halt from walk


then trot to halt


Yeah that was just what we were trying out oh and tell me what you thought about those if you want to and thats pretty much it. He's a leopard appaloosa and his name is Mickey since he has a couple spots with Mickey mouse shapes :P
 
#11 ·
also has a lot to do with how smart the original owners were. what they let him get away with.

if he's REALLY not very smart, then the intelligence has been bred out probably a QH or TB cross. The Nez Perce indians bred them to have good feet, to be intelligent, brave, easy keepers. but man has had to cross-breed for his own reasons, and bred out a lot of these qualities. however, the color on that horse is amazing. he's gorgous.
 
#12 ·
ColleenT said:
also has a lot to do with how smart the original owners were. what they let him get away with.

if he's REALLY not very smart, then the intelligence has been bred out probably a qh or tb cross. The Nez Perce indians bred them to have good feet, to be intelligent, brave, easy keepers. but man has had to cross-breed for his own reasons, and bred out a lot of these qualities. however, the color on that horse is amazing. he's gorgous.
Are you trying to say quarter horses are of inferior intelligence? Thus, likely to lower the potential intelligence of any breed they might be crossed with? Cause it sure seems to me you are saying that.
 
#13 ·
in general i believe all horses are smart animals.

i do think that crossing the App to various other breeds was detrimental to their health, and intelligence.

they were perfect before the american people started cross-breeding them with every breed they could. if the American people wanted spots on their horses, they should have just stayed with what was already the perfect spotted horse. the one the Nez Perce indians bred. the foundation App.
 
#14 ·
That is one very pretty appy!

I love appys. I have heard that they are very smart, and also very stubborn. I think the two go together. They are smart enough to "think." I like thinking horses. :) They are so much more fun! They are also so much more frustrating... :? LOL! They learn faster, but also have shorter attention spans, and need more motivation to learn. "Why should I do that? I would much rather do this." Hehe!

I think all breeds come in smart and dumb. And it depends a lot on whether they were allowed to be smart when they were trained. Some people just beat it in to them, and they give up. They just become dumb beasts of burden. :(
 
#15 ·
it's true, you do have to be smarter than the app. or they will Avoid doing work if possible, and they will learn how to avoid good behaviors, if other behaviors are more fun. they have a wonderful personality and their intelligence has also cost them a lot when a frustrated owner can't outsmart them.
 
#16 ·
you guys stereotype way too much on here. Yes i may sound rude at the moment but its true. All this crap which breed is the calmest which breed is the smartest its the horse not the breed!! Grrr people need some common sense on here. What are you gonna say next black people are stupid and white people act gay come on geat real.
 
#17 ·
Hi all,

Can you please remember when typing a reply to other members that there are children on this website. I'm not siding with anyone, and everyone is entitled to their opinion, but when you do write a post, can you please make sure that it is not in any way accusatory, rude or offensive etc...

However I do have to say J R lover, I do disagree with you a little. There are some breeds calmer than others, and there are some breeds more high spirited than others. This isn't stereotyping, but a fact.
Although I do agree that more often than not a horses temperament will depend on how they have been trained and brought up, their breeding does play a large role.
 
#18 ·
Actually that is wrong i have in many cases dealt with some horses that are supposedly high strung or horse that are supposedly laid back because of their breed and it was not like people said nope they were the complete opposite so therefore i consider this stereotyping since people say stuff like that. Or the mares are more moody than geldings i have seen lots of mares that are sweet as can be with no mood swings so therefore stereotyping again.Now thats fact.
 
#19 ·
Jr_lover said:
Or the mares are more moody than geldings i have seen lots of mares that are sweet as can be with no mood swings so therefore stereotyping again.Now thats fact.
People say in general, mares are much more moody then geldings. This does not mean every mare is moody. Generalizing that mares have more severe mood swings is not stereotyping, it's anatomy. Geldings do not have the organ to produce hormones as opposed to a mare, who has NOT been spayed and therefore has fluxuating hormonal levels. As these hormone levels change, the mare goes in and out of heat with a changing attitude. Some mares have more severe mood swings then others. Saying mares do not get moody and that it is stereotyping is just like saying women do not become irritable/moody when PMS'ing. Same thing.
 
#20 ·
Saying mares do not get moody and that it is stereotyping is just like saying women do not become irritable/moody when PMS'ing. Same thing.
Oh yeah! :shock: :? :oops: :lol:

If anyone has any doubt about whether mares can become moody, please come and visit my mare! She is an all around champion of mood swings when she is in heat! Not to mention a total embarisment. :oops: And totally funny! (Um, Christy, that is a GELDING, not a stallion. :? :lol:

Many horses are bread for specific traits, including tempermant. True much of their tempermant has to do with how they are raised, but there is still quite a bit that is genetic... Or at the least has a genetic predisposition to... There are always exceptions. Not all traits are genetic, but many are... :)
 
#21 ·
Breeds were made by man. We the humans, took the qualitites we wanted and we created Racehorses, cow horses, jumpers, etc.

Every breed DOES have it's differences. and some things were bred into a breed and some things were not. you can take a cow horse and jump it, but it's not going to win the Grand National. and you can take a thoroughbred and team pen with it, but it may be too spooky to enjoy it. YES, THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO EVERY RULE. but in General, there are traits in the breeds that are expected. i expect an arab to have high energy. i expect a warmblood to be tall. i expect an Appaloosa to be intelligent.

we created these breeds to do what we needed them to do. the Appaloosa( topic of THIS thread) was bred by the Nez Perce indians. they bred for good feet, intelligence, bravery,and easy keepers. they bred for color also, but the first qualities were more important to them. this has nothing to do with discrimination, it is about differences in breeds.

and having differences is perfectly fine. i don't see what the problem is.
 
#22 ·
hope you have fun with your new project! I am sure you will love him/her?

I dont think you can really say what the breed "Appaloosa" temperment is like.. just like people and anyother creature on the planet every horse is different and unique in the way God made it.


I have two appies, both of them I do western.

My filly is really smart and food motivated,
my geldign is not food motivated, and is stubborn. it really depends on the individual temperment of the horse.


Lilly is two she is my "project" i guess but I plan on doing cutting with her..

Caesar is 20 which i kinda a shock because he still acts alot younger..
see


then Lilly is the same way.. she is Awesome I love appies... and have never considered any other breed


more pics






(no one was hurt :wink: )



sry for all the pics it is another hobby :roll:





also no need to get huffy this is not a topic worth fighting over.. :wink:
 
#25 ·
ColleenT said:
Appy's are extremely intelligent( sometimes stubborn b/c they are intelligent), brave, and love people. i think they have wonderful personalities. treats can go a long way with training. i think you are going to have great success. Good luck.

i can't say they are like qh in training situations. Appies are alwasy thinking of what they can get into or looking off into the distance for something more interesting to do. they need to be into everything.
this is a perfect discription of Both my appies!! :P
 
#26 ·
i'm not saying anything about how the horse looks or its traits like what it can do physically or what it was bred for i'm talking about the moods and so fourth. I'm tired of people saying stuff like a quarter horse is calm a mare is moody and blah blah blah. It gets on my nerves because not every horse is the same. You can think that way all you want but its not the same.
 
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