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post #11 of 27 Old 04-25-2007, 09:59 AM
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also has a lot to do with how smart the original owners were. what they let him get away with.

if he's REALLY not very smart, then the intelligence has been bred out probably a QH or TB cross. The Nez Perce indians bred them to have good feet, to be intelligent, brave, easy keepers. but man has had to cross-breed for his own reasons, and bred out a lot of these qualities. however, the color on that horse is amazing. he's gorgous.
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post #12 of 27 Old 04-29-2007, 04:53 PM
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also has a lot to do with how smart the original owners were. what they let him get away with.

if he's REALLY not very smart, then the intelligence has been bred out probably a qh or tb cross. The Nez Perce indians bred them to have good feet, to be intelligent, brave, easy keepers. but man has had to cross-breed for his own reasons, and bred out a lot of these qualities. however, the color on that horse is amazing. he's gorgous.
Are you trying to say quarter horses are of inferior intelligence? Thus, likely to lower the potential intelligence of any breed they might be crossed with? Cause it sure seems to me you are saying that.
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post #13 of 27 Old 04-30-2007, 06:06 PM
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in general i believe all horses are smart animals.

i do think that crossing the App to various other breeds was detrimental to their health, and intelligence.

they were perfect before the american people started cross-breeding them with every breed they could. if the American people wanted spots on their horses, they should have just stayed with what was already the perfect spotted horse. the one the Nez Perce indians bred. the foundation App.
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post #14 of 27 Old 04-30-2007, 06:55 PM
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That is one very pretty appy!

I love appys. I have heard that they are very smart, and also very stubborn. I think the two go together. They are smart enough to "think." I like thinking horses. :) They are so much more fun! They are also so much more frustrating... LOL! They learn faster, but also have shorter attention spans, and need more motivation to learn. "Why should I do that? I would much rather do this." Hehe!

I think all breeds come in smart and dumb. And it depends a lot on whether they were allowed to be smart when they were trained. Some people just beat it in to them, and they give up. They just become dumb beasts of burden. :(
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post #15 of 27 Old 04-30-2007, 08:00 PM
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it's true, you do have to be smarter than the app. or they will Avoid doing work if possible, and they will learn how to avoid good behaviors, if other behaviors are more fun. they have a wonderful personality and their intelligence has also cost them a lot when a frustrated owner can't outsmart them.
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post #16 of 27 Old 05-02-2007, 08:47 PM
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you guys stereotype way too much on here. Yes i may sound rude at the moment but its true. All this crap which breed is the calmest which breed is the smartest its the horse not the breed!! Grrr people need some common sense on here. What are you gonna say next black people are stupid and white people act gay come on geat real.
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post #17 of 27 Old 05-03-2007, 03:37 AM
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Hi all,

Can you please remember when typing a reply to other members that there are children on this website. I'm not siding with anyone, and everyone is entitled to their opinion, but when you do write a post, can you please make sure that it is not in any way accusatory, rude or offensive etc...

However I do have to say J R lover, I do disagree with you a little. There are some breeds calmer than others, and there are some breeds more high spirited than others. This isn't stereotyping, but a fact.
Although I do agree that more often than not a horses temperament will depend on how they have been trained and brought up, their breeding does play a large role.
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post #18 of 27 Old 05-03-2007, 07:43 PM
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Actually that is wrong i have in many cases dealt with some horses that are supposedly high strung or horse that are supposedly laid back because of their breed and it was not like people said nope they were the complete opposite so therefore i consider this stereotyping since people say stuff like that. Or the mares are more moody than geldings i have seen lots of mares that are sweet as can be with no mood swings so therefore stereotyping again.Now thats fact.
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post #19 of 27 Old 05-03-2007, 10:34 PM
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Or the mares are more moody than geldings i have seen lots of mares that are sweet as can be with no mood swings so therefore stereotyping again.Now thats fact.
People say in general, mares are much more moody then geldings. This does not mean every mare is moody. Generalizing that mares have more severe mood swings is not stereotyping, it's anatomy. Geldings do not have the organ to produce hormones as opposed to a mare, who has NOT been spayed and therefore has fluxuating hormonal levels. As these hormone levels change, the mare goes in and out of heat with a changing attitude. Some mares have more severe mood swings then others. Saying mares do not get moody and that it is stereotyping is just like saying women do not become irritable/moody when PMS'ing. Same thing.
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post #20 of 27 Old 05-04-2007, 12:05 AM
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Saying mares do not get moody and that it is stereotyping is just like saying women do not become irritable/moody when PMS'ing. Same thing.
Oh yeah!

If anyone has any doubt about whether mares can become moody, please come and visit my mare! She is an all around champion of mood swings when she is in heat! Not to mention a total embarisment. And totally funny! (Um, Christy, that is a GELDING, not a stallion.

Many horses are bread for specific traits, including tempermant. True much of their tempermant has to do with how they are raised, but there is still quite a bit that is genetic... Or at the least has a genetic predisposition to... There are always exceptions. Not all traits are genetic, but many are... :)
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