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    06-09-2008, 12:01 PM
  #21
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You would not believe how many impressive horses went through the auction this weekend that were not tested. I was shocked...
     
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    06-09-2008, 12:09 PM
  #22
Started
To the op, unfortunately breeds are a human invention: we create them and we can destroy them as well...it takes a lot of interest, organization and money to revitalize a breed. I actually agree with you that the crossbreeding up this point has not done the poor apps much good. I actually really like the old style of the breed, but it has become almost impossible to find good specimens with that clean, leggy, mustang-like look to them.
     
    06-09-2008, 03:24 PM
  #23
Weanling
OUCH. I don't think you know anything about the Impressive line or hypp for you to make that comment. Impressive horses are very smart, quick learners with great attitudes. That's why people keep them around and for you to say "hypp going around" you act like it's a virus or something. It's not, it's a genetic disorder and if you breed a negative horse to a negative horse, you can NOT pass it on. I have an Impressive bred horse, Impressive on both ends, the parents were tested and do not carry the gene, that means mine does not have it and will never get it. So for you to say people keep breeding THOSE horses... that's just an unfair uneducated statement.[/quote]

Impressive horse are very smart, I agree. The Impressive line should not be wiped out all together, it just needs to be bred correctly and sadly, it's not even to this day. APHA now requires that is your horse carries Impressive in its lines for it to be noted as so on the registration papers (my gelding was off of the Scotch Bar Time line which goes way back to Impressive). It's like OLWS...if it's bred correctly it isn't going to be a problem.... people need to test.
     
    06-09-2008, 03:25 PM
  #24
Weanling
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Originally Posted by appylover31803
my mare is hypp N/H, and there's another horse at the barn who is also NH.
I'm keeping Vega so she doesn't go to someone who wants to use her as a broodmare and produce more positive foals. I have done a lot of research and I personally find the disease ugly, but do you really blame the people for keeping they hypp positive horses? Maybe they just love their horses personality too much to give them away, maybe they didn't know at the time of their purchase that their horse was positive.

The day people could care less about an animal making them tons of money, I feel, is the day that hypp disappears.

Just my 2 cents though.
If you're horse is HYPP positive that's fine and dandy but if it's a stud, GELD IT! It's not hard...people are out to make money, like you said, and it's killing off perfectly good horses.
     
    06-09-2008, 03:29 PM
  #25
Trained
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Originally Posted by irisheyes12
Quote:
Originally Posted by appylover31803
my mare is hypp N/H, and there's another horse at the barn who is also NH.
I'm keeping Vega so she doesn't go to someone who wants to use her as a broodmare and produce more positive foals. I have done a lot of research and I personally find the disease ugly, but do you really blame the people for keeping they hypp positive horses? Maybe they just love their horses personality too much to give them away, maybe they didn't know at the time of their purchase that their horse was positive.

The day people could care less about an animal making them tons of money, I feel, is the day that hypp disappears.

Just my 2 cents though.
If you're horse is hypp positive that's fine and dandy but if it's a stud, GELD IT! It's not hard...people are out to make money, like you said, and it's killing off perfectly good horses.
Oh I totally agree!
At my current barn, there are 2 stallions as my current place that has impressive on both sides. On their website (they are for sale) it says nothing about hypp. If someone where to buy either one of them and breed the horse, they'd just be continuing on and infecting more and more horses. It only costs $50 to get the horse tested... DO IT!
     
    06-09-2008, 03:33 PM
  #26
Weanling
We're getting a bit off topic for this thread but yes, I totally agree with you :)
     
    06-09-2008, 04:40 PM
  #27
Showing
When you look at most registries, practically every breed has been tempered with and changed. There has been a lot of questioning about the tb registry and the breeding that has been taking place and the lack of a good quality tbs. Lines have been changed to accommodate racing.

It's really unfortunate that the appy registry and breeding is being changed so much.
     
    06-09-2008, 04:47 PM
  #28
Trained
Does someone have a picture of a foundation app?

What are the bloodlines to know if your app is foundation?
     
    06-09-2008, 05:25 PM
  #29
Started
Forgive me, I know these are all leopards:P These are the horses you see less and less of. I am pretty sure all of these are 100% foundation...most of them were labeled as such. You get a general idea of the body type anyway.









     
    06-09-2008, 05:31 PM
  #30
Showing
The coloring blows me away!
     

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