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        07-30-2013, 05:49 AM
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    appalossas info please

    Hi I'm in the UK and my daughter has just been offered the chance to Buy a unbroken just 7 appaloosa due to no fault of its own . We were just looking for advice on the breed and whether it be worth the challenge x any advice much appricated x
         
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        07-30-2013, 07:13 AM
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    Hello Vippy. I am not too sure what specifically you want to know about Appaloosas. I am guessing from the tone of your post that you may have heard negative comments about the breed (possibly with regard to temperament?) and that this has raised some concerns.

    While some folks may have you believe they are akin to an alien life form, from my experience, I have found the Appaloosa to be a horse like any other. I have leased and owned several over the last 30 years and they have varied in character and trainability no more than any other breed. However, I will admit to having a slight bias towards them .

    I would be more concerned that this prospect has a good disposition, is sound and that you have someone of suitable experience to commence his/her education than the fact that this horse may have spots.
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        07-30-2013, 07:23 AM
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    Nothing wrong with an App

    We had one who gave western and english riding lessons for 14 years

    She's was a great trail horse too, took her to shows and did well

    They are generally versatile and smart.

    Occasionally headstrong, but so are many of our other breeds


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        07-30-2013, 07:31 AM
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    I've only met one Appaloosa that I didn't like, and even she had a personality that wasn't any worse than I've seen in other horses.
         
        07-30-2013, 07:53 AM
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    Appaloosas are a mixed breed. Some are almost all Appaloosa, some are almost all Quarterhorse, some are almost all Arabian, some are almost all Thoroughbred, and some are various combinations. To be able to predict much about the breed characteristics they might have, you really need a pedigree to find out what they actually are...
         
        07-30-2013, 08:51 AM
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    Appys were the war horses of the nez perce. In the 1800's the us army all but wiped them out by breeding them to their draft horses. In the 1940's a man decided to bring the breed back by breeding these draft to his arab stallions producing red eagle. They were also breed to thoroughbreds and quarter horses but all appys can be traced back to one of 3 arab stallions. Because of the mixing of so many different breeds appys are very smart and also very athtic. I've owned a daughter and a granddaughter of red eagle. Both were very good horses. They were very versatile. One day we could be out on trail and the next we're jumping in a show. Don't worry about what you've heard about temperment. Most people find them headstrong but that is because they are so smart and they know it. If you can be in charge but kind at the same time you'll have a wonderful willing horse that can really do anything you want it to. But if you can't be in charge and very clear with you cues you'll have a horse that will take advantage of that. Even the appy I own now will still stop and stomp his foot once in a while until I fix myself and start riding correctly. Sorry this has been a long history but wasn't sure what you wanted to know
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        07-30-2013, 10:05 AM
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    There's actually nothing wrong with appaloosas, though I'm not a fan of them.
    As your in the UK (near me!) it is most likely the color appaloosa rather than the breed. So essentially, it will probably be the same as any other horse ;)

    My problem with this horse would be that it is being broken in very, very late.
    I usually start the breaking in process at 2 and a half, or 3. The problem with breaking a 7 year old in, is that they have had their freedom for so long, that they are going to put up one hell of a fight. I broke in a 5 year old recently, (I did it for a friend) and it was a hell of a lot harder to break than a 2 and a 1/2 or 3 year old. Most horses, broken at 3, are going well by the age of 6, and are in their prime, but this one won't be going well until 10, or 11. Maybe even later, as older horses don't learn quite as quick as the younger ones.
    Then again, I might have just typed that for nothing when you tell me that you aren't planning to break the horse in.
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        07-30-2013, 10:34 AM
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    I LOVE my appy, and wouldnt hesitate to get another. Typically they are smart and strong willed, but once they accept you as leader they will do anything for you. I used to ride one gelding that you had to be careful with, because he had too much 'heart' for his own good, and would work himself to death if you asked him.
         
        07-30-2013, 12:14 PM
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    Originally Posted by ridemcowgirl069    
    Appys were the war horses of the nez perce. In the 1800's the us army all but wiped them out by breeding them to their draft horses. In the 1940's a man decided to bring the breed back by breeding these draft to his arab stallions producing red eagle. They were also breed to thoroughbreds and quarter horses but all appys can be traced back to one of 3 arab stallions. Because of the mixing of so many different breeds appys are very smart and also very athtic. I've owned a daughter and a granddaughter of red eagle. Both were very good horses. They were very versatile. One day we could be out on trail and the next we're jumping in a show. Don't worry about what you've heard about temperment. Most people find them headstrong but that is because they are so smart and they know it. If you can be in charge but kind at the same time you'll have a wonderful willing horse that can really do anything you want it to. But if you can't be in charge and very clear with you cues you'll have a horse that will take advantage of that. Even the appy I own now will still stop and stomp his foot once in a while until I fix myself and start riding correctly. Sorry this has been a long history but wasn't sure what you wanted to know
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    You have considerable misinformation there. Claude Thompson bred Red Eagle, but he bred his Arab Ferris to existing Appy mares - it's not like he recreated the breed...he merely infused Arab blood into existing Appys and organized the farcical ApHC.

    And all Appys absolutely do not trace directly to 3 Arab stallions...I have no idea where you got that kind of information, but it is dead wrong. Heck, my grandfather was raising Appys in the early 30's before Ferris began producing and they had no Arabian blood...Spanish blood, of course, but not actual Arabian...
         
        07-30-2013, 03:29 PM
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    Maybe they were thinking TBs..... Just because a horse is started late doesn't mean it will be harder to start. It all depends on the horse's personality and mental readiness. I've known many a younger horse that wasn't mentally mature enough to start at 4 but was really easy going and ready by 6. I've also known several that were ready and willing at 2 but we waited to ride until they were closer to finished maturing physically. Still worked with them and taught them a lot because they had the head for it. Not many have the time, patience or money to hold a horse and start it late so many get pushed earlier than they are ready and if the trainer isn't careful a good horse can be soured really quickly.
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