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    05-23-2011, 12:33 PM
  #1
Foal
Appy/color/spot questions

Brian is my beginner lesson horse. I got him two years ago as a starved and sick rescue. He was in pretty bad shape when I got him, but put weight on well and recovered well after the parasites were gone and the proper amount of feed was introduced. His previous owner said he was an appaloosa. At the time I didn't believe her cause he was solid colored, and she also said she took good care of him which was obviously not the case.
I know comformationally he's got a lot of flaws, but he is golden with kids.

So the last two years when he shed out he has started to get random spots and roaning. This year he has more than last year. I also am unsure of his color. He seems to have a dorsal stripe but seems too dark to be a dun. Maybe he is just a pale chestnut with counter shading. His mane and tail are dark brown with red and tan highlights. He has dark spots on his butt and shoulder that are about two inches wide. I always try to brush them off when I'm grooming, but they are permanent.

My questions:
Is he going to continue to roan and and spot as he ages?

What do you think the dark spots are on his butt and shoulder?

What color do you think he is?

The last picture is how poor Brian looked the day we got him.
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    05-23-2011, 02:59 PM
  #2
Foal
Also does he look like an appaloosa? He is fine boned and 14.1 hands.
     
    05-23-2011, 03:09 PM
  #3
Banned
Appaloosas come in many shapes and sizes.

Though most of them look like the average stock breed horse there are more refined models so there is not way to say he does or does not have the build of an appy.


He looks to be chestnut/sorrel to me. I would not guess appy by his coat.
     
    05-23-2011, 03:15 PM
  #4
Showing
Wow, he looks so much happier and healthier now. Good job.

I, truthfully, don't see any signs of Appy in him. The white spots and dark spots are just anomalies that are often seen on chestnut horses. The white spots are called Birdcatcher spots and the darker spots are called Bend Or or Grease spots.

Here is a bit of information about both of them.
Rare Horse Colors & Markings

It is possible that he has Appy somewhere in his lineage, but I see no signs of it at all. Pretty typical signs of the Appy gene, even on solid colored horses, is striped hooves, visible white sclera of the eye, and mottled skin. As for his color, I would say just a regular chestnut or sorrel (whichever term you want to use). The dorsal stripe is just countershading.

Here is a good picture of a horse that has no white Appy markings but is still characteristic of the breed. (note the striped front hooves and the mottled skin around her muzzle)
     
    05-23-2011, 03:31 PM
  #5
Foal
Thanks Smrobs, I think you may be right he might just have a combo of grease spots and bird catcher spots. Thanks for the link. The only place he has mottled skin is on his privates. Someone put a lot of time into him before he fell into the wrong hands. It just makes me wonder about his past.
     
    05-23-2011, 06:27 PM
  #6
Banned
He could be an Appaloosa, but he is definitely non-characteristic (and would have been branded as such on his papers). The coloration you're seeing on him is not due to any of the Appy/LP genes.
     
    05-27-2011, 06:20 PM
  #7
Yearling
Beautiful Horse! Poor Brian!
     

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