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        12-24-2009, 12:50 PM
      #11
    Green Broke
    Wow Danastark he is stunning!!! I would steal him in a heart beat!! And Trinity Savhanna is also georgeous!
         
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        12-24-2009, 08:59 PM
      #12
    Green Broke
    Oh, I did not know that, I was just going by what mom told me on that one, she said that it was on her papers that she was a leopard. She is white with quarter sized black spots all over her, no roaning or any other colors, just b/w. I had no idea how ApHA classified the horses, never had an app myself...

    Thanks for letting me know that though.
         
        12-24-2009, 10:49 PM
      #13
    Weanling
    I have had, currently have, and will continue to have various Appaloosas, and I generally like 'hair" on my Appaloosas. Most of them have had average to full manes and tails--


    But I recently brought home a mare who has the least hair of any Appaloosa I have owned. Her movement, build, bloodlines, and her precious willing funny personality sold me on her so much that her hair (lack of) became a non-issue..... here she is with her mane wet over, otherwise it stands up, LOL---
         
        12-24-2009, 11:09 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    I love your Palimino App, they are my favorite, next to the black w/ white spots and blankets!
         
        12-24-2009, 11:11 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
    Question, does a mares color pattern have anything to do with the foals? Satin came to us as a brood mare having had 5 foals, and they are all blankets. None of them are leopard or b/w...

    I have never bred before, so I have no clue how much it matters... I know it has to have some effect, just to the extent is what I am curious.
         
        12-25-2009, 12:45 AM
      #16
    Yearling
    Lilkitty-you'd have to fight my kids for him! He's the bestest pony ever :) Not so stunning right now-hairy and muddy, but happy :) Thanks!
         
        12-25-2009, 12:49 AM
      #17
    Weanling
    Thanks! I miss her a lot.
         
        12-25-2009, 12:58 AM
      #18
    Weanling
    >>>>>Palomino App

    Thanks, he was a great horse. He was my previous stallion, a reserve World Champion and 2X ROM earner, who sadly had to be euthanized last year after he broke his shoulder.

    He was actually red dun, with a white mane and tail. I had him tested for the cream gene (His dam was smokey black so it was possible he had a cream gene, and he looked like he could have) but he tested negative. He sired a good share of foals with the dun gene, and sometimes passed along the white/light mane and tail, sometimes not. Here are two of his foals who git the light mane and tail-- the gelding is chestnut, the filly (head down) is red dun like her daddy.

         
        12-25-2009, 01:10 AM
      #19
    Weanling
    >>>> Question, does a mares color pattern have anything to do with the foals? Satin came to us as a brood mare having had 5 foals, and they are all blankets. None of them are leopard or b/w...

    Yes.
    Generally, Appaloosas who are leopard can produce leopard, and they might also have other pattern genes so could also produce blankets. Blanketed Appaloosas generally cannot produce leopards on their own-- if a horse has a pattern gene for leopard normally the horse will be a leopard or near leopard itself, so if you don't see it, it won't be passed along--

    That is, if expression of their pattern is not suppressed by other genetic factors-- Very occasionally a horse with leopard lineage will look like it has a large blanket, but will produce leopards without having a mate who could contribute the leopard patterning, meaning it has the gene for leopard patterning, but it is not being fully expressed. You might also see a horse with just a few flecks on its rump produce full-blown big spotted blankets from mates without any Appaloosa genetics to contribute-- obviously, the Appaloosa parent has some pattern genes that are not fully expressing.

    The above only applies to Appaloosas who have the LP gene to "light up" whatever pattern they have-- totally solid non-characteristic Appaloosas can carry one or more pattern genes and you would never know, unless/until they were bred to an LP gened mate and if the foal inherited LP from that parent and the "hidden" pattern gene form the solid parent.

    Also, if an Appaloosa with a blanket or a leopard Appaloosa is not homozygous for any particular pattern gene(s), they might also produce a solid that will roan later---LP by itself does that-- having LP but lacking pattern genes, the foal is born solid, often with characteristics,and usually will roan to some extent as they age.

    I would love to see photos of your mare, and see her pedigree-- is it on allbreedpedigree.com ? Or if you have her registered name, I can look it up on the ApHC database.
         
        12-25-2009, 11:35 PM
      #20
    Green Broke
    Ahahaha Danastark tempting even furry and muddy!! = P
         

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