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post #1 of 20 Old 08-20-2010, 12:35 AM Thread Starter
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Appy or Roan?

i bought this little filly in march....some one on here said she was varnished roan in her summer pic......what do you think? her bill of sale said appy
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post #2 of 20 Old 08-20-2010, 12:37 AM
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I thought appy wasn't a color, just a breed. But Appaloosas all have the same sort of coloring, it's hard to explain what I'm trying to say(: so I'll just say I think she's an Appy
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post #3 of 20 Old 08-20-2010, 12:45 AM
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Appy, and her color is indeed Varnish Roan...Appy is her breed, Varnish Roan just her color...she's really cute too!

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Varnish roan is considered an "appy" pattern. She looks like she has a lacey blanket plus LP/varnish roaning.

Appaloosa might or might not be her breed-- other breeds as well as grade horses come in patterns commonly referred to "appy" patterns. Knabstruppers, Norikers, POAs, Mustangs, some Quarter Horses... members of all of the above breeds can sometimes share some color genetics (the gene(s) that make mottled skin, striped hooves, white sclera, app roaning, and that reveals blankets, leopard spots, etc...the main on/off switch is referred to as "LP") with Appaloosas.

So I would call her an app roan or LP roan with a lacy blanket-- but IMO she is just appaloosa colored (lowercase "a") unless she is a registered Appaloosa (capital "A").

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my intention is to breed her later on only if i can get her papers to a stud call zip me impressive or one of his sons........

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I just have to say that she is super cute! Especially in the first pic!
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I agree with everyone else. THough i always thought that to be eligible for registration as an Appy, the horse had to display atleast 3 characteristics (spot pattern, wall-eyes, striped hooves or mottled skin)?
Someone correct me if i'm wrong.
My first horse was a reg. Appy, although he had no spots, just a blaze & 4 socks. The AAHA told us that he qualified because he had mottled skin, striped hooves & (1) wall-eye...
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lol very confusing!!!! she is very cute but yet still very shy, i've had her for 6 months and still not halter trained but will follow the rest of my horses

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I agree with Eastowest - appaloosa pattern unless registered Appaloosa. My mom's mare is a Mustang/Appy, palomino with white spots on her rump but she's just got an appaloosa pattern.

I know the resgistry was accepting Registered QH bloodlines as long as the foals had color or traditional markings but just learning about that myself, sorry I'm not more help! Will definitely keep checking back to learn though!

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>>>> THough i always thought that to be eligible for registration as an Appy, the horse had to display atleast 3 characteristics (spot pattern, wall-eyes, striped hooves or mottled skin)

If the horse meets bloodline requirements (one regular registered ApHC parent, the other parent from the approved list (ApHC, QH, TB, Arab, approved international registries) and the breeding was properly recorded and parents DNA typed and etc., then it is eligible for Appaloosa registration, whether it has characteristics of not. Applicants with characteristics (mottled skin and one other characteristic) and/or color get regular papers. Noncharacteristic horses get non-characteristic papers, meaning the owner needs to pay an extra fee and have them parentage verified if they want to show them at ApHC events--otherwise they are still registered, and can be used of non-ApHC events and for breeding.

A gelding or spayed mare that doesn't meet pedigree requirements, or doesn't have a known pedigree, is eligible for hardship registration if it otherwise meets the requirements for Appaloosa color/characteristics.

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