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    08-21-2010, 11:25 AM
Just to comment on what Eastowest said, my old gelding was an Appy/QH cross, but he didn't inherit the LP gene, so he was just dappled gray - no spotting, striped hooves, or visable sclera. He was still registered as an Appy.
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    08-21-2010, 03:00 PM
"my intention is to breed her later on only if I can get her papers to a stud call zip me impressive or one of his sons........"

Not sure if anyone caught this, but I just wanted to post a warning about impressive lines. Since impressive, the original carrier of HYPP, is the great great grandfather of zip me impressive there may be a fraction of a chance the stallion may carry the disease even if apparently dormant. The disease is a muscle disease caused by a genetic defect that attaches the pores of affect foals. Here is an article that I found for you that explains all about the disease as well as its relationship to impressive and how to avoid passing it on. Not to much to worry about however, as long as the mares and sires are tested then all is well and you will have a beautiful foal. =) good luck.
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    08-21-2010, 03:38 PM
Why do you want to breed her? I'm asking because I'm always very curious the reasons that people have for wanting to breed their horses -- especially in an instance like this where you get a baby to later create a baby? Seems like she doesn't have any remarkable papers or bloodlines or incentive to breed so I'm curious!
    08-21-2010, 04:32 PM
Zip Me Impressive is tested N/N.

There is no "dormant" state of HYPP-- the horse either inherited the defective gene, or it did not. Some horses who have tested positive (inherited the gene) apparently have few to no symptoms, but that does not change their positive status, the fact that they could start having symptoms at any time, and that they can pass on the defect.

But I will repeat-- Zip Me Impressive is N/N-- doesn't have HYPP, cannot pass it on.

Zippy is indeed a worthy choice for the right mare-- he earned the title of World's Best Appaloosa, and has 50 Top Ten World and National and Year end titles, Three bronze medallions and 14 ROMs.

Here's a video of him in a trail class--

And his web page--
    08-21-2010, 06:12 PM
Wow, what a well-trained horse. I've never seen a trail class before, that was interesting to watch.
    08-21-2010, 09:20 PM
Deerly......first off not sure if belle is reg or her in march at a auction, wasn't watching the auctioneer when she enterd the ring...was dealing with a 16 year daughter who wanted her I bought her....i'm not one to breed every mare I like...last foal I had was 6 years ago and and she was a surprise but I do love that brat...would I breed her?...doc bar in her....don't think so......secretley belle is a filly i've been waitting for for a long time flashy yet suttle...once she is much older and proven her self I might consider breeding her only after a exstensive pre breeding vet check...
The guys at the auction barn said to just give them a calll when i'm ready to research her past.
    08-21-2010, 10:39 PM
would I breed her?...doc bar in her....don't think so......

OK.... might be a slightly off-topic question, but why would having Doc Bar in a pedigree be a problem that disqualified a horse from being breeding quality? (If I am reading your comment correctly).
    08-21-2010, 10:44 PM
>>>> the guys at the auction barn said to just give them a calll when i'm ready to research her past.

If you want to know for sure if she is registered/registerable, and want to get it done if possible, I would recommend that you get going ASAP, for a few reasons.

First off, the farther back in past history her previous owners get, the less likely you will be able to find them, the less likely they will remember things correctly, and etc.

Plus, if she is registerable but not yet registered, the fees to get her registered keep increasing as she gets older.

Also, if the parents have not had DNA put on file, it would need to get done-- the longer you wait, the more chance of not being able to locate the parents, or that one or both has passed away or etc.
    08-21-2010, 11:13 PM
Lol you'd have to meet abby to understand why I wouldn;t want to breed her......she's a good mare but there are some traits I would not want to pass on, plus she's been a bad influence on belle latley "she tought her how to get grass on the other side of the fence with out getting popped".

I know time is a factor with getting her registured but the day I bought her I just wanted to kill the former owner die to her condition, thin and it looked like she had a foal halter left on way to long. Money isn't a factor either
    08-23-2010, 12:02 PM
>>>> lol you'd have to meet abby to understand why I wouldn;t want to breed her......she's a good mare but there are some traits I would not want to pass on

So from your statement

"would I breed her?...doc bar in her....don't think so..."

You are saying her undesirable traits are from Doc Bar bloodlines?

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