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post #1 of 7 Old 03-06-2012, 09:04 AM Thread Starter
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AQHA lines - Opinons?

Just wanted to get some opinions on my gelding. The only names I really know are Poco Bueno, Doc Bar and Doc O Lena. I don't know anything about the dam's breeding.

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Fox easter was a good Doc O'Lena son. Rocket Bar was a very nice horse. Then Gray Badger. Over all a mix of foundation and running. Good using horse over all based on Pedigree.

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My horse is a Poco Bueno/King bred Line (Poco Bueno is by King).

VERY SMART horses. I have been told this line will try to figure out how to untie knots (which mine does) and to undo latches ( he will try) they also LOVE attention.

My horse is ridden Dressage and trail...but can actually cut a person when bareback and bridleless (bareback and bridless only....go figure) so they must get something out of the line handed down to him . LOL

I have read Doc bars can have a little temper...and are very focused.

all horses are different though, and some don't take after their line at all...

a good horse is a good horse whatever line it is :)

Here is a website on poco bueno full of awesome pictures. and information

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While the bigger names are farther back in his pedigree than I like to see when looking at a horse, that isn't awful. It's important to have those bigger names back on their pedigree as well. It sets up for a better foundation for the horse. Your gelding should have the set up for the western disciplines if he has nice conformation and the mindset to do the things you want him to. I'll just start with the closer names and work my way back a few generations to see what you've got.

Doc Bar - While Doc Bar was bred to be a race horse, he failed at it and went on to be a great halter horse. He is mostly known for his impact on the cutting horse world. His offspring completely changed the game and you can find a Doc Bar horse on just about every pedigree today. It was and still is a big "trend" to have those Doc Bar lines on a horse's pedigree. He is a AQHA Hall of Fame horse. In 2007 Western Horseman magazine chose Doc as number two on their list of top ten ranch horse bloodlines. He is 75% foundation bred. leading sire of AQHA Champions, NCHA Champions, and Arena ROMs. Offspring earned $1,178,484 in cutting. SIRE OF: Wrld Ch 9, Resrve Wrld Ch 4, Top Ten World Show Offspring, Superior Halter.

Rocket Bar - 35-16-6-4, $22,904. Won: Phoenix Gold Cup H.(twice); Littleton Speed H. AQHA Hall of Fame. Superior RC Sire of 45 SW; Five running Champions, Superior Champions, Superior Halter.

Grey Badger II - AQHA Hall of Fame, 2007. AQHA Race SI-85(AA), ROM Race, 6-2-0-0.
Breeder: Walter F. Merrick, Texola, OK. Owner: Chick Crisp, Sayre, OK. Died 1972 (31yo). ROM RACE OFFSPRING: Badger Buck 2, Badger`s Grey Lady, Blue Gypsy, Coe Badger 89, Grey Badger III, Grey Face.
100% NFQHA .Offspring:AQHA High Point Performance,AQHA Champion ROM Performance,Race ROM, NCHA Money-earners, Race Money-earners, Halter Point Earners. Grey Badger II foaled on May 5, 1941.[1] He was registered with number 2006 in the AQHA. His stud book listing gives his color as gray, and his breeder as Walter F. Merrick of Texola, Oklahoma. His sire was Midnight Jr #210, and his dam was listed as Grey Annie #3502 by Billy the Tough, second dam as Casey Jones mare by Casey Jones.( AQHA lists this Casey Jones as a Morgan). He was owned by Chick Crisp of Sayre, Oklahoma at the time he was registered. His sire was a son of Midnight and traced to Peter McCue three times. He was a noted match racer during the 1940s. His official racing record with the AQHA has him starting six times in three years, with two wins and no seconds or thirds. He achieved an AA speed rating. He died on the Triangle Ranch in Texas, probably around 1972. Among his famous offspring were Grey Badger III and Badgers Grey. His granddaughter Triangle Tookie is a leading producer of AQHA Champions, including Two Eyed Jack.

Buck Hancock - 100% foundation bred.

Lightning Bar -QHA H-18/R-26 AQHA CHAMPION
ROM Arena Race SI-95(AAA)(SP)(R-26.0)/ (FLS), 10-4-3-1, $1,491.
AQHA Hall of Fame 2008 DECEASED: 1960 Breeder/Owner: Art Pollard, Tucson, AZ. 25% NFQHA A Leading Sire & Maternal Grandsire of Race ROM
A Leading Sire Money Earners Sire of 77 ROM Race.

Poco Bueno
- Breeder: Jess Hankins, Rocksprings, TX. Owner: E. P. Waggoner, Ft. Worth, TX.
100% Foundation H-37.0/P-8.0 AQHA Champion/ROM Arena/Hall of Fame
Sire of AQHA Chs/ROM Arena/Pro.Dghts/etc. HERDA Carrier He was grand champion stallion at Denvers National Western Stock Show, the Southwestern Exposition and Fat Stock Show in Fort Worth, State Fair of Texas in Dallas and the American Royal Livestock Show in Kansas City. As a 4-year-old, in 1948, Poco Bueno started his performance career as a cutting horse, and his amazing ability helped him to quickly acquire an impressive record - and a legion of fans. He was the first quarter horse to be insured for $100,000.00. Poco Bueno died November 28, 1969 and Mr. Waggoner left specific instructions in his will that Poco Bueno was to be buried in a standing position in a grave across from the ranch entrance on Hwy. 283.
More info can be found at Waggoners Poco Bueno Info

Three Bars - Won: Speed Handicap The leading sire of racing Quarter Horses for many years. American Quarter Horse Hall of Fame 1989. Died April 6, 1968.
Three Bars was the sire of 29 AQHA Champions, 4 AQHA Supreme Champions, 317 Racing Register of Merit earners, and his foals earned more than $3 million.

Joe Hancock- AQHA Hall of Fame, 1992.
AQHA Offspring Record for Joe Hancock Total Points Earned: 23; Reg Foals: 155; Number Shown: 16; Point Earners: 2; Performance Points Earned: 23; Performance Point Earners: 2; Performance ROMS: 2; Total ROMs: 2; Race Earnings: $337; Race ROMS: 6; Other Information for Joe Hancock Breeder: John Jackson Hancock; Owner: Tom L Burnett Cattle Company, Fort Worth, TX For more information go to articles & photographs of Joe Hancock sons and daughters.

Those are the horses that are closer on your gelding's pedigree. I can go back further a few generations and get into the really foundation bred horses that so many people look for on a Quarter Horse's pedigree..Such as King, Bill Cody and Wimpy.

King - Breeder: Burney James, Encinal, TX. Owner: Jess Hankins, Rocksprings, TX. 100% foundation bred horse. AQHA Hall of Fame Died 1958 A L.M. Gdsire ROM Race, A Leading sire/Maternal G.Sire AQHA CHs. & ROM Arena Sire Of 2 AQHA HofF: Poco Bueno & Royal King 658 foals, 218 performers from 23 crops. 35 race starters, 17 winners, 44 wins, 12 ROM/183 show performers, 104 (1,088 pts); 107 (2,061 pts) 147 total pt-earners with a total of 3,149 points All Divisions combined. King was born June 25, 1932, the offspring of Zantanon and Jabalina.Originally named Buttons by his breeder, he was renamed King when he was registered with the AQHA as number 234.

Bill Cody - AQHA Bill Cody 1944;Wimpy x Pesetita)was one of the breeds first halter superstars. He was AQHA FIRST Honor Roll Halter horse Superior Halter 97 Pts, 1952 AQHA High Point Halter Breeder: King Ranch, Kingsville,TX Owner: Joe Watt Hardin, Ft.Worth,TX 100%fnd. Sire Record: R/F-255; Perf-103; AQHA CHs-12; Sup.Ct-1; ROM-28; Supr.Hlt-8 See AQHA Legends, Vol 5). Stallion Offspring Record Hall of Fame Offspring, AQHA & NRHA Superior Halter Offspring Superior Performance Offspring AQHA Champion Offspring ROM Performance Offspring AQHA Offspring Record Total Points Earned: 1,873; Reg Foals: 255; Number Shown: 101; Point Earners: 79; Halter Points Earned: 1,194; Halter Point Earners: 68; Superior Halter Awards: 8; Performance Points Earned: 679 Performance PointEarners:47 Performance ROMS: 28; Superior Performance Awards: 1; AQHA Champions: 12; Total Superior Awards: 9; Total ROMs: 28; Leading Sire List AQHA Performance List: #19 All-time leading broodmare sire of AQHA Champions – 15 Outstanding Offspring Joe Cody, AQHA Champion; World & Res World Champion Sire, AQHA & NRHA Hall of Fame Town Crier, 110 HLT & 18.5 Perf Pts.

Wimpy - Breeder/Owner: King Ranch, Kingsville, TX.
Later owned by: George Clegg, and last Rex Cauble, Houston, TX.
He achieved everlasting recognition by being awarded the number P-1 in the AQHA registry 1941 Fort Worth Exposition and Fat Stock Show Grand Champion Stallion Sire of 174 registered foals; 1 AQHA Champion, 13 earners, 2 Supr.Hlt. awards, 4 earners, 1 Supr.perf. award, 4 Perf. ROMs, and 1 race starter. Died Aug 13, 1959 Inducted into AQHA Hall of Fame 1989

There are other nice horses back on his pedigree..These are just the horses that had the most influence on your horse's pedigree..I think he is of decent pedigree, definitely not the worst I've seen.

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Thank you so much for your help everyone :)

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No the horse that had the most influence would be Fox Easter. Great horse very versitile.
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post #7 of 7 Old 03-07-2012, 12:00 PM
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Huh, I could have sworn I added him to the list..anyway, here we go again.

Fox Easter - Earner of 23 AQHA points, 22 halter and 1 performance point. Sired NCHA LTE offspring earnings of $302,087, Offspring - ROM Performance Offspring, NCHA Money-earners, Halter Point Earners, and Performance Point Earners. Fox Easter sold for $30,000 at the National Western Mile-High Select Performance Horse Sale.

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