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    04-06-2010, 04:48 PM
It's mostly a training thing. Arabs are one of the most sensitive breeds out there, and I firmly believe they will let you know of any inconsistencies, such as inconsistent rein contact, a bouncing or unstable rider, etc. It's more natural for them to have their heads up, but I know lots of Arabs that are marvelous dressage mounts, and none of them toss their heads. The only time I see Arabs flipping their heads around are when the reins, or the rider, is flopping around.
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    04-11-2010, 12:25 PM
My Paint mare used to toss her head when she wanted to speed up on the trail. It was very much a training issue. Time, gentle corrections and good runs when she wasn't doing it, cured the habbit.

My 2 yr old SE Arab throws his head around out in the field, but never when I am handling him. He tried once or twice but a stern correction cured it quick.

How does your Arab act on the ground? Does he mind his manners?
    04-11-2010, 04:55 PM
Could be an Arab thing. They're quirky. Almost every one I've ever seen/ridden has been all strung out and they have that goofy canter. Plus you feel like you have nothing under you when you're riding them. At least the ones I've ridden had no engines whatsoever. And Jessy don't like to be low on power.

To be fair, I don't dislike all Arabians. I have seen a few hunters and half-Arabs that I liked.
    04-11-2010, 05:44 PM
Both of the Arabs that do this have great ground manners. They both toss their heads when they're playing out in the pasture, but neither of them every do it on the ground.

Although I have considered that it's a problem with my riding, those are the only 2 horses that do it, and I ride a lot of different horses. I don't know!!
    04-11-2010, 08:01 PM
It is an Arab thing - But not all of them do it.

I have two arabs - a 14yo gelding who is very well trained, and a 5yo mare who is just being started.

The gelding does the head flip when he is in high adrenalin situations - he gets excited and it's his way of showing it! He always has experienced and balanced riders when doing MG and similar, so it isn't a riding issue. He is ridden by begginners and is currently a RDA horse, and doesn't do it with begginners. He has had his teeth done, everything fits. It is just a quirk of his.

The mare has yet to lift her head, yet alone flip it, lol.
    04-11-2010, 10:05 PM
The average Arab is more sensitive than your average non-Arab, so you might be able to get away with carrying your hands one way with another horse, but not with these Arabs. Generally, excessive head-tossing means the horse is not happy with your hands. Get someone knowlegeable to watch you ride them to see if they can give you any pointers or to see if they notice you doing anything specific that is causing the head tossing.

Just an example: I went to ride today as a "job interview" to start training & showing for some people. They put me on an Arab mare, & she was an absolute doll. They told me that they always put people on her in order to assess their riding skills, because the mare will throw a fit (including tons of head tossing) if she feels at all uncomfortable with either the way she is being ridden or with the general "vibe" that the rider is giving off (nervous, aggressive, etc.)
I am of course not saying that you're a bad rider, there just might be something that needs a bit of tweaking in order to make these horses a bit happier so that the annoying head tossing will stop.
    04-12-2010, 01:25 PM
I guess its a bit of both really
I have an arab and he's pretty highly strung, so maybe that's got something to do with it. I've seen him do it when he's in the field, but never when he's ridden..
So maybe it's training and an arab thing :)
    04-14-2010, 12:39 PM
My Bashkir Curly X Arab cross mare does a head toss in the pasture that looks like she is saying, "I've got flair!" She ducks her head and twists it. She has almost thrown herself off the side, she does it so hard. That is only in the pasure though She has never done it under saddle. Now, my friend has a six year old Tennesee Walker mare that does the same thing, although she has just started doing it under saddle. She has only had about fifteen or less rides on her, so hopefully it won't become a habit
    04-16-2010, 02:22 AM
I know that pretty much every single Arab I've encountered does the whole Flip the Head thing in the pasture at liberty, and many will do it undersaddle when they get excited if they aren't taught 'restraint' in that area!

Jessabel: it's funny that you say that you feel like you have no engine under you when you've been on an arab...all the arabs I've ridden feel like 'greased lightening' compared to alot of stock horses I've ridden; they are always ready to go, and have MUCH more stamina and ground covering stride than alot of larger breeds even. They are a desert horse, so they were bred to cover alot of distance; their 'unique' strides that you have pointed out, helped them do that as well, as they needed to be able to 'paddle' through the desert sands; their gaits allowed them to be able to easily manage that task without tripping over their own feet, or the deep sand.
    04-16-2010, 03:15 AM
Originally Posted by mom2pride    
Jessabel: it's funny that you say that you feel like you have no engine under you when you've been on an arab...all the arabs I've ridden feel like 'greased lightening'
When I had my Arab mare, the lady I leased her from called her "my Ferrari"

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