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    07-03-2013, 09:31 PM
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Foal
Arabian heads

This is going to be a stupid question, but hopefully not offensive to anyone. I like Arabs, I know there are people that love them and people that hate them. I'm fairly neutral, I enjoy looking at them, but don't think I'd ever own one.

Anyway, to the question: Why are Arabians (particularly those intended to show) bred for such dished faces? They look unnatural to me, I look at them and it makes me feel like it may be difficult for them to eat normally...I know that's silly, but it's to such an extreme it makes me wonder. They almost resemble anteaters, with the long face and extremely thin nose.

Like this one http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4986/michael8130lw2.jpg

And some are even more dished...

I'm used to thinking of an arabian head and seeing something like these:
http://15pictures.com/wp-content/gal...an-horse-1.jpg

http://www.sitevip.net/wallpapers/An...n-Stallion.jpg

Is there a reason for the trend towards such thin noses? Are there any health problems caused by it? It just bothers me because it seems like something so beautiful is being distorted and caused to look deformed...almost alien.

I really hope I don't offend anyone by this, I just really want to know.
     
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    07-03-2013, 09:48 PM
  #2
Trained
I love the extreme dish, looks exotic to me and sends chills up my spine. I can't be the only one, so I am guessing that is why?
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    07-03-2013, 10:23 PM
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People like the more exotic head, and different "strains" of Arabians can tend to have either dishier heads, or less dishy heads. If I remember correctly, I think that Egyptian Arabians tend to have dishier heads than say Russian Arabians. I personally don't like the extremely exotic head, but I do like a nice little bit of a dish in the face.

There are a few out there where the actual bone has developed in a concave way, and they do have some health problems, but even the extremely exotic heads tend to have fairly large nostrils so don't have any breathing problems, or teeth problems that I've heard about.
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    07-03-2013, 10:32 PM
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Foal
So it's just a personal preference thing? I thought it might be that or trend, similar to how the modern dressage has switched to the flashy front end action with minimal hind leg action being favored by the judges..just a trend that with hopefully pass. It would definitely make sense if the different types of Arabians have a different look about them. I don't care for the "exotic" look myself it doesn't sit well with me for some reason.
     
    07-03-2013, 10:33 PM
  #5
Yearling
How old is the horse in the first picture? I like a dish but one that is more classic. I am not fond of the last picture. Some Arabs that are extreme in dish do have dental issues. There was a farm in England, can't remember their name, that had a mare with an extremely dished head which to me, was deformed.
     
    07-03-2013, 10:38 PM
  #6
Yearling
I'm with you. I don't like Arabs simply because I REALLY don't like the mega-dish faces. I also don't like the curved, arched necks. I just think it looks really unnatural and - to ME, speaking for myself - that it can border on looking like a deformity. (I'm so sorry, Arabian lovers! I am capable of *appreciating* a good 'arab-y' arab, but it doesn't mean I like them LOL). Their firey attitude turns me off a bit too, as I like big, gentle giants (WHOO draft horses).

But I also know that there's animals like that in most breeds - For example, Some day I really want a hairless cat. I know some people think they, too, look incredibly unnatural LOL. Some people just like them, I guess. I don't think there's any health issues that I know of - I have heard that the dish and big nostrils make them good for endurance. But I honestly don't know, I've never looked too much into them.

I think some Arab crosses can look just gorgeous - the right blend of (what I think of as) the best arab traits mixed with other horse traits can produce a stunning horse. I would certainly own an arab or a cross - just, not a SUPER arab-y arab. I'll leave those to the people who love them
     
    07-03-2013, 10:40 PM
  #7
Yearling
Halsdon......Arabs tend to have a more archy neck. Ya' know, if you were to see these "halter" horses when they are in their natural state....Sometimes we humans have a tendency to take things to an extreme, "sometimes."...haha
     
    07-03-2013, 10:48 PM
  #8
Trained
First of all, take away the make up and a good portion of the " exotic" is gone. Then keep in mind, only the typiest photos are being published.
I've seen a few " typey " Arabians outside of a show environment and had a hard time recognizing them.
I've also noticed lots of straight Russian Arabians are super typey when young, but straighten out with age.
Type is not only the dish. It's a straight or slightly concave profile, large eye, small tippy ears, wide forehead and dryness, no excess flesh.
     
    07-03-2013, 10:57 PM
  #9
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Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman    
First of all, take away the make up and a good portion of the " exotic" is gone. Then keep in mind, only the typiest photos are being published.
I've seen a few " typey " Arabians outside of a show environment and had a hard time recognizing them.
I've also noticed lots of straight Russian Arabians are super typey when young, but straighten out with age.
Type is not only the dish. It's a straight or slightly concave profile, large eye, small tippy ears, wide forehead and dryness, no excess flesh.

^ multiplied by a bajillion

You nailed it, DHW!
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    07-03-2013, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by goneriding    
How old is the horse in the first picture? I like a dish but one that is more classic. I am not fond of the last picture. Some Arabs that are extreme in dish do have dental issues. There was a farm in England, can't remember their name, that had a mare with an extremely dished head which to me, was deformed.
I'm not sure how old the horse is, it was just a picture I found from a quick google search this is the original link: Scottsdale 2009 - The Arabian Horse Hot Topics Forum - A Black Horse Community
     

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