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  • Do all grey horses turn white
  • Do chestnut born arabian horses turn grey?

 
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    11-16-2010, 05:42 PM
  #1
Weanling
Arabians turning gray

I really love arabians, and I found a couple I might want to go look at to buy. I think they are both 8. I was just curious, do all arabians eventually turn gray? I read it in a breed book I have...but they also said quarter horses were the fastest in the world so it might be wrong. Its just the one I really like is a lovely deep bay and I would hate for him to lose his color.
     
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    11-16-2010, 05:51 PM
  #2
Green Broke
Nope, it isn't true. Unless they carry the gray gene they won't gray out any more than any other breed. There isn't any breed in which ALL of them turn gray. The Lipizzaner would be as close to that as it gets, and even they don't ALL turn gray, just most of them. I'd say if the Arab is fully mature, and shows no sign of graying, it's not going to.
     
    11-16-2010, 05:51 PM
  #3
Trained
A bay WONT loose its colour to go grey, but a grey will go white when it gets older.
     
    11-16-2010, 05:55 PM
  #4
Weanling
Well good! :) I first took lessons on an older arab (maybe 22?) and the owner said he was born chesnut. So I guess some of them do gray?
     
    11-16-2010, 06:14 PM
  #5
Trained
I may have been roan? And then just grayed out as it got older. I have heard of it happening to a roan before but only a strawberry roan, not blue roan. I ahve also heard of it happening to an overo, but the overo had really faded patches and you could only just see them
     
    11-16-2010, 06:45 PM
  #6
Green Broke
Arabians don't have roan PT :)

As PPs have said, if the horse is 8 and shows no signs of grey, it should stay. You describe it's colour as a 'deep' bay, which makes me think that it is not a grey :)

Have to remind you though, remember that a good horse is never a bad colour :)
     
    11-16-2010, 07:04 PM
  #7
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by xxEmilyxx    
Well good! :) I first took lessons on an older arab (maybe 22?) and the owner said he was born chesnut. So I guess some of them do gray?
Well sure, any breed CAN go gray, but that doesn't mean they all will. And most grays do start out another color. I have a grey QH/Paint that was born chestnut and white, and another that was black when born but both grayed out before age 3. I'm sure the Arab you rode grayed out while still a youngster.

But I agree with Chiilaa about color not being the determining factor of a good horse.
(I do have to say though, google image search "roan Arabian" and you'll see pictures of a bunch of really nice looking ones...)
     
    11-16-2010, 10:37 PM
  #8
Trained
I know an Arabian that is probably in his 20s and he's still bay.

And the book may have said QHs are the fastest horses in the world because QHs can cover a quarter mile the fastest, but not over distance like Thoroughbreds or Arabians. QHs have power, just not quite the endurance.
     
    11-17-2010, 08:39 PM
  #9
Weanling
>>> a bay WONT loose its colour to go grey, but a grey will go white when it gets older.


A horse can be born bay and look bay for the first little while of its life, but if it also inherited a grey gene from a parent, it WILL eventually turn from bay gradually to white.

That horse still has all the genetic coding to be a bay-- its just that it *also* has the gene for grey..... and the grey gene trumps expression of the bay phenotype by causing the bay/black hairs to be gradually replaced by white hairs as the horse ages.

Baby grey horses are almost always born a normal looking solid color-- any color-- whatever their genes say they should be, which can be anything they inherited from their parents. Grey doesn't care what the original color is-- it still works the same way to gradually turn the horse white. Often the baby grey will have little clues to their future grey-ness, such as white hairs around the eyes and muzzle, at birth. They start getting more white hairs at each change of coat.

Here is a baby bay/brown that indeed did turn grey, due to the action of the grey gene it had in addition to its other genetics for color....

-------------------7 months old-------------------------------yearling year--------------


---------------------4 years old-------------------------------7 years old------


---------9 years old----------------------------------10 years old--------------
     
    11-17-2010, 11:06 PM
  #10
Trained


This boy was born chestnut, not one white hair on him, pretty much until this year. He was born in 2007 and by 2012 he'll probably be all grey. His sire is grey and his dam is a lovely blood bay. If your bay horse is still dark bay and not looking 'flea bit' then he's probably not got the grey modifier. Do you know his parents color? Or have his registered name?
     

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