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  • Do only arabs compete in the tevis cup winners
  • How many twh enter tevis cup

 
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    04-20-2010, 10:30 AM
  #21
Weanling
I ride with a group of TWH on my little TB cross and on my arabian...im the only non-gaited person in my personal group lol

My arabian has picked up some sort of odd prance which keeps up with the walkers fast walk and her trot is lovely and keeps up with the running walk so no issues there.

My TB cross (we believe with QH but not sure) Can do a slow jog that is equivalent to the fast walk and his normal trot is even with the running walk if not better...half the time he out paces the walkers and makes them have to work lol

If a horse is ridden with gaited horses enough they will learn how to keep pace in their own way just like mine learned a prance of sorts and the jog.

My opinion is that any horse who is in shape can keep up with if not out pace a gaited horse...the key is that your non gaited baby be in good condition!
     
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    04-20-2010, 04:22 PM
  #22
Weanling
A non gaited horse can't keep up. Buy a gaited horse, if your going to be riding with gaited people. Everytime I've ridden with a non-gaited rider.. I've always had to stop and wait and it gets seriously annoying. Gaited horses naturally move faster then a non gaited. They have more of a motor, so to speak, so even at a walk.. their walk is equivilent to a jog for a normal horse.

And about the stamina thing? That's baloney. Gaited horses were bred for long distances. So, I'm quite certain their stamina can match any non-gaited.
     
    04-20-2010, 10:27 PM
  #23
Weanling
Keep in mind the OP is looking at an arabian...they are also bred for long distance...bred for it even more so then a gaited breed. On average, not in every case but most of the time, and arabian will have more stamina and endurance then any other breed.

I was told the same thing by my friends that I would not be able to keep up with their walkers on my horse. I decided I would go anyway and told them that if I fell behind they could leave me and I would just enjoy my ride at a slower pace. From the very begining They had to tell me to wait up. My horse out paced their walkers by a long shot. His trot was much faster then their running walk.

Just about every horse before mine had not been able to keep pace. So no not all non-gaited horses can keep pace but alot can! The arabian I aquired from them was the only other non-gaited to keep up but she had been ridden with the walkers since they got her.

It all depends on the horse. I would not reccomend a pokey QH, but an arab should do fine. Once again so long as they are in shape and can trot out for a long time you will be fine!

You are going to realize that most gaited people have the philosiophy that non-gaited horses can't match up...I had to prove my friends wrong and you will just have to prove yours wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but opinions can change!
     
    04-21-2010, 11:34 PM
  #24
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by mountainhorse44    
And about the stamina thing? That's baloney. Gaited horses were bred for long distances. So, I'm quite certain their stamina can match any non-gaited.
Because naturally, we see TWH and Paso Finos winning the Tevis Cup every year. :roll: Gaited horses are great, but don't attempt making them out to be more then they are. They may have good stamina at moderate paces for distance, but I've ridden with many gaited horses and they couldn't hold a candle to my Arab for sheer stamina. My Arab also has no problem keeping a steady trot to match any quick gaited walk pace, with less loss of stamina.
     
    04-22-2010, 08:05 AM
  #25
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Horribilis    
A gaited Arab would be perfect....a dream come true!!!

Aren't national Show Horses crosses between American Saddlebred (gaited?) and Arabs?

Yeah, she definantly has the endurance of both breeds. She just keeps getting faster and faster the more we go. Her energy NEVER slows.
     
    04-24-2010, 12:30 AM
  #26
Green Broke
As a note, some Arabs are actually naturally gaited. The Crabbet line from *Raffles (particularily the *Raseyn line) was well known for producing racking Arabs. I don't think you see many of them around nowadays, but Arabs are one of the few breeds that are gifted in developing almost their own gait to cover ground at a speedy walk. I had an Arab mare I swear to god could fox trot She could walk faster then some horses I know could canter!
     
    04-24-2010, 10:07 AM
  #27
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Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
Because naturally, we see TWH and Paso Finos winning the Tevis Cup every year. :roll: Gaited horses are great, but don't attempt making them out to be more then they are. They may have good stamina at moderate paces for distance, but I've ridden with many gaited horses and they couldn't hold a candle to my Arab for sheer stamina. My Arab also has no problem keeping a steady trot to match any quick gaited walk pace, with less loss of stamina.
Actually, there are a LOT of gaited horses competing in endurance. They're probably the most common breeds, after Arabs. Do a Google search for good/popular endurance breeds. I guarantee you 90% of the articles you find will mention gaited horses.

Everybody knows Arabs are great for endurance. But gaited horses were bred for endurance, too. That's the entire reason gaits were selectively bred for - because the gait doesn't take up as much energy and can be done at longer distances than the trot, on average.

But we're not even talking about endurance here. I'm pretty sure we're talking about an average trail ride - which almost any horse can handle. We're only talking about the speed of the walk and trot. And the fact is, most gaited horses walk and gait MUCH faster than non-gaited horses can. It has absolutely nothing to do with stamina... It's just how they move.
     
    04-24-2010, 12:49 PM
  #28
Weanling
See here is the issue everyone has...yes gaited horses do tend to move faster...and yes its all about how they move...BUT a non-gaited horse can move just as fast and can keep up and they can, but usually don't, outpace a gaited horse....it has happened.

It all depends on the horse...were most gaited horses are faster then a non-gaited a non-gaited can keep up very well if they want to, have the stamina to, and are in good enough shape to, oh and if you don't mind the posting you must do. Not all non-gaited horses are slow pokey things...ive found that this seems to be the mindset of most gaited riders...and its incorrect, not all non-gaited horse are slow.

Does this suit everyone? Lol this turned into an argument...The simple point is yes yall tend to be faster but yes we can keep up on the right mount.
     
    04-24-2010, 01:01 PM
  #29
Green Broke
My point is that my Arab can do at a trot what your horse can do at a running walk, and the expended energy really doesn't matter because at the end of the day, it's what an Arab was bred to do. My friends own TWH horses, and about all they can do is the running walk or they'll be exhausted after a 15 mile ride. And they're probably in BETTER shape then my Arab. I have never had an issue keeping up, and most often I'm in the lead anyway since Zierra won't do anything much slower then a fast trot anyway.

It really doesn't matter I suppose, my entire point however was the sheer stamina of an Arab will produce an animal that can easily keep up to a gaited horse. Gaited horses may be competeing in lower levels of endurance, but what does it say about them WINNING? The entire point is that an Arab can move at SPEED and expend very little energy.

Tevis Cup - Historic Records, Trivia and Little Known Facts

It lists both the Tevis Cup winners since it started, as well as the Haggin Cup winners which is presented to the horse in most superior physical condition out of the first ten finishers.

I love gaited horses. But I rather doubt I'll find one that my own Arab can't keep up to, or will tire her out before they do.
     
    04-24-2010, 01:13 PM
  #30
Weanling
I should have edited my last line because your right...

Yes yall gaited people tend to be faster then most trail horses but that doesnt mean us non-gaited people can't keep up or even out pace you on the right mount...

That's how it should have read...cause both of my horses match and out match my friends walkers....and I know its happened bafore with other horses just as you stated with Zierra...but not every horses will so its still all about having the right mount.
     

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