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        03-30-2013, 11:07 PM
      #71
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by AllieJ333    
    I like Arabs, but they don't do very well at the disciplines I do and most of the ones I've ridden have been too push-button in my opinion.
    What discipline is that?

    I like your "push button". So opposite from the "crazy". Comments LOL
    Just goes to show.
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        03-31-2013, 09:59 AM
      #72
    Yearling
    I'd describe my Arab as very agile, quick and sensitive. He's a bit of a nervous guy in new situations, but always seems to come around on my cue and settles into nice quality work. He notices the smallest details. Because he's so sensitive, I have to be very clear and concise on the cues I give him. With clear aids, he is pretty much "push button" however, if he gets mixed messages or if I am at all nervous, he can get a little crazy. It is when he's in "crazy mode" that I notice more how quick and agile he is as he seems to over respond to the slightest things. By crazy, I mean he gives me an exaggerated version of what I ask for, like faster trot, over bending, very quick response. With him, I don't have to worry about getting a response, but I do have to focus on tempering the degree of response. I think this is what some people call "crazy".
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        04-01-2013, 10:18 AM
      #73
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman    
    Completely agreed! I found that they see a lot more and faster than any other horse, but once they figure out what it is, they're just fine. I had a huge combine passing my paddock the warmblood, TB and the Hafi went to the opposite end, all(9) Arabs went straight towards it to check it out. My current Arab is nicknamed "cop". He notices everything, strange cars coming up the driveway, escaped cows, a dog who doesn't belong here. I learned yo look where he's looking to stay informed
    We had a coyote out by one of our pastures once: the two part-arab mares ran over there, the one to investigate and the other to run the coyote off. Sure, the ponies might have done the same thing, but not the warmbloods or the QH. Only the Arabs were curious enough to run over there and check him out.
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        04-02-2013, 05:03 PM
      #74
    Weanling
    I didn't read all the replies on here, just most (up to page 4) and I just wanted to jump in. I wanted a TB. I love love love the TB breed and it was the one I was most experienced with. But my trainer had me helping her retrain this Arab who had sat in pasture for the past 5-ish years. And little by little she stole my heart and I bought her and she is alllllll mine now. I was looking for a horse about 6 years ago and met a woman with a white arab who she said she would give to me for free. I jumped at the chance and drove 4 hours to see the mare. That horse was crazy. She didn't buck or anything, but tossed her head, danced, sped up, wouldn't listen. The woman got on her and she was perfect. I think that is shows arabs are mostly "one person" horses. It is funny because my horse isn't at all spooky and is by the sweetest temperated horse I've ever met in my life. To me she isn't at all like the "standard" crazy arab that people think about.

    Actually, I get a huge kick out of those conversations:
    "Yes, I ride."
    "Wow cool. Do you have your own horse?"
    "Yep! Sure do!"
    "Cool! What breed?"
    "An Arab."
    "Oh..........."

    Hahahaa. Cracks me up every time. I truly and honestly believe that the vast majority of Arab-haters in the world are QH people. While there is nothing wrong with a good solid QH mount, I don't really think that anyone would argue that the QH breed in general (there are always the exception horses) is very laid back and easy to train. I think it is because of that, that most people don't want to put in the time and effort to get to know and respond to the Arab's behavior and sensitivity. And those that do tend to really love the breed. Are they just lazy? Maybe. Some people, for various, various reasons (age, experience, location, training, soooo many more) just don't/can't put the time into a breed like an Arab or TB. They take a little something extra. You've got to WANT it. If you don't, you won't like the breed at all.

    Are they a bit more high-strung? Are they "crazy" at times? Yes. They aren't going to be "push button" and if they are, they won't be an "anyone can ride" kind of horse. Arabs give their loyalty to one person. Mine already knows my voice AND my car, which is awesome. There is nothing sweeter than a horse nicker greeting. I don't think after owning an arab that I'm going to be a Arab-only kind of girl, but I DEFIANTLY have nothing against the breed and wouldn't dismiss buying another arab whenever I want anoother horse. (Is one ever enough? ;) )

    Just my two cents.
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        04-02-2013, 05:38 PM
      #75
    Trained
    Arabians are the Border Collies of the horse world. They excel in collection sports and are almost always the winners of the insanely long endurance rides, like the 100 mile Tevis Cup.
    They aren't crazy but they are high energy animals. On the other hand, they are probably the most social of the horse breeds and REALLY like the people the own them.
    The down side is that many men are not comfortable riding them bc they are shallower sprung than a QH, and aren't very tall. Most are between 14/2hh and 15hh. They can carry more weight than they look like they can carry.
    When my DH first rode our TWH/QH cross, who gaited, he was totally in love. That is why we now own two gaited horses. I had spent a summer riding a friend's TWH's many years ago, so I recognized this in our non-registered horse.
    The reason that most people own QH's is bc there are more of them than any other breed, and they have been outcrossed so much that they come in small, medium and large. It isn't uncommon to find a 14hh QH or a 17hh QH. Some are leaner, some are heavier. Appendix QH's can be scopey and bulldog QH's can run barrels.

    Before you buy a breed you should spend a good deal of time with them.
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        04-02-2013, 05:57 PM
      #76
    Yearling
    I didn't read all of the posts so don't know where the conversation has wandered to but my 2 cents on the original question is (from personal experience), Arabs are like a really smart dog or any other smart animal or even smarter than average people. They have some extra brain cells to work with and their minds need to be engaged. They like to have a job or an activity where they have to think about things, problem solve and they thrive under these circumstances.

    All of the sour/hyper/spooky Arabs I've ever encountered are diamonds in the rough waiting for an opportunity to excel. If left alone too long or get stuck in the same routine over and over day after day, they will get bored and cranky. Notice how they like to watch everything and concentrate on certain things and they also tend to watch their handler's reaction as well.

    Nine times out of 10 the arab horse who is deemed 'crazy' is the way he is b/c his handler/rider/trainer/whatever isn't a good match for his personality and doesn't feed his 'brain' the way that he needs.
         
        04-10-2013, 08:27 PM
      #77
    Started
    Push-button? ANY horse can be push button, breed doesn't matter.....
    It really depends on the training and the horse.
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        04-10-2013, 09:26 PM
      #78
    Started
    Yes, Arabs are like border collies/jack russels compared with ol' Rover, the lab. Neither is superior; just depends upon what one wants/can handle.
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        04-10-2013, 10:07 PM
      #79
    Showing
    In my vast experience of one whole Arab (a 3 year old that I trained a few years ago), they can be pretty amazing horses. The one I rode came from a local breeder who has always had amazing horses. She used to compete in the costume classes at shows but has been more into endurance and CTR's for quite a few years now.

    The colt that I started for her was very intelligent, but no more spooky than any other average greenie than I've ridden. The thing about him that was most memorable was his movement. He was barely 15 hands tall and only weighed about 800 at the time, but had the gaits of a horse 4 times his size. He wasn't rough, actually the opposite, but he just moved so big and covered so much ground so easily. The only horse I've ever ridden who had comparable gaits is my 18 hand Percheron.
         
        04-10-2013, 11:55 PM
      #80
    Trained
    I have ridden both full Arabs and half Arabs and I like the smooth gait
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