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        05-20-2013, 01:49 AM
      #11
    Yearling
    I have a little quarter horse that I rescued. He's filled out now but his starvation during his first 2 years stunted his growth and he looks like a pony next to my other tanks. My saddle kept rolling on him too while mounting. Thankfully, I tend to be a hoarder when it comes to tack so I was able to drag out my old youth sized saddle to use on him and voila problem solved.

    Your saddle will probably be fine on your horse once he gains some weight & muscle so in the meantime maybe ask around to your friends to see if they have a youth sized saddle gathering dust in their tackroom that you borrow for a few months.
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        05-20-2013, 06:41 AM
      #12
    Cat
    Green Broke
    We have a lot of gaited horses in this area and I really see nothing gaited or Arabian about this horse. If you had told me he was a registered paint I would have believed you.

    As for "gaited" saddles - its just a tree that is more likely to fit their body type, just like an Arabian saddle, etc. A little different than regular QH or semi-QH bars and usually allows a bit more wither room. However, just because the saddle claims its gaited, does not mean it will fit every gaited horse. Plus many "regular" saddles fit just fine as well. They are just marketing terms for the most part.

    As to your rolling saddle - I always associated rolling with a saddle that is too narrow. Are you sure your saddle is too wide? Is it sitting down in the front and popping up in the back? Plus, the saddle will fit completely differently once he is in good weight and muscled out.

    I guess I'm also not seeing what you are talking about with the hind end and the legs being different lengths. Maybe if you had him squared up it would be easier to see what you are talking about? Right now from those pics he looks like a normal horse with his legs in 2 different positions. They aren't going to look the same like that.
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        05-20-2013, 07:14 AM
      #13
    Trained
    Hmm. I have no idea why your saddle is rolling, but it is pretty hard to tell fit from those pics. I used a Bob's custom reining saddle on my guy, FQHB, and he has less withers than yours and it doesn't roll at all. Not sure what a "medium" tree is in a western saddle-I have only heard narrow medium and wide with respect to english saddles? Anyway-I do not use a gaited saddle on my cross.....who, BTW, really doesn't have a gaited "look" when standing either......or so I am told......

         
        05-20-2013, 07:19 AM
      #14
    Trained
    This is the only saddled pic I could find......It looks wider than yours.....

         
        05-20-2013, 10:55 AM
      #15
    NRW
    Foal
    @ cat : his legs are just slightly off. If you see how he hold his right hind kind of awkward, it's because he's evening himself out. It's not a big deal, I talked to my vet about it and had all of the x rays. I don't think it effects the saddle fitting because the saddle didn't fit my other horse either.


    I made a different thread about my saddle issue in the tack thread section :)
    Cheyenne Springs Tucker saddle keeps rolling when I try to mount
    If anybody wants to add anything there about my saddle.

    I was just trying to get an idea here if he might be something other than just a paint, to see if it had anything to do with how my saddle isn't working. But if he's just a paint horse I'm completely cool with that. He's a cute little guy. I'll just have to find a saddle that works for him.
         
        05-21-2013, 12:05 AM
      #16
    Started
    No Arabian traits there. Looks Tennessee Walker to me, judging from the conformation.
         
        05-21-2013, 10:24 AM
      #17
    Weanling
    You might want to try 2 pads and see if it improves the fit for now. When I got my horse he was really thin too and in the first year and a half as he gained weight then muscle mass he outgrew 2 different saddles! It's amazing what groceries and conditioning can do. I see why you fell for this guy, he's really pretty and should be lots of fun for you!
         
        05-21-2013, 11:25 AM
      #18
    Weanling
    The major difference in a "gaited" saddle is that there is more "flare" in the front to allow the horse's shoulders freedom of movement needed to gait correctly. Therefore, no gait=no need for that "flare". That being said, gaited horses have all the saddle fitting issues that any other types of horses have. My pet peeve are owners that buy a "gaited" saddle and expect it to fit their gaited horse without considering any other saddle fit criteria (absolutely not talking about you, just sayin'). I don't see Arab or gaited....perhaps the hind leg imbalance puts his way of going off just enough to mimic "gait"? I'm assuming neither your vet nor his previous owners are very familiar with gaited horses. He's a pretty boy!
         
        05-21-2013, 11:51 AM
      #19
    Green Broke
    I have owned several TWH-crosses over the years--QH/TWH, Arab/TWH, grade/TWH
    ALL of them gaited. It is a predominant gene. Yours doesn't gait, so no gaited cross. Nice horse, though.
    IMO, saddle makers are trying to sell us on a perfect fit, even though our own clothes fit differently depending on how fit we are, or skinny, or too fat. (GOD FORBID HORSEPEOPLE WOULD ADMIT TO THIS!!)
    Most of us are just used to additional padding under the saddle when necessary. As long as you are just schooling you don't have to worry about the extras coming off, BUT you can lose an extra pad on a long trail ride, so avoid that.
    I don't know if this will help, but I have had two horses--one now RIP, the other is my 16'3hh KMH--who have the best saddle fit with a 3/4" Roper pad I bought at some point--???when.
         
        05-21-2013, 12:15 PM
      #20
    Green Broke
    IMO he is just a grade pinto, maybe a paintxtb. Some paints and qh's can be taller and lankier than others especially with some TB.

    How does the saddle sit on him? Try setting it on him without a pad, to see where the problem. How does it fit his withers? Do the skirts rest on his sides or can you fit your hand under them?
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