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  • Saddlebred x tb
  • Saddlebred arabian cross

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    04-26-2013, 10:24 AM
  #11
Yearling
I'm not sure I totally buy the thing about the 5 gaited ASBs... I have one of those, she was never formally trained, but her lateral tendencies make her a difficult sell for dressage, and her tendency to change footfalls if she comes off balance can be a challenge to ride in hunters too. She has passed it on, at least once, to a non-purebred foal at that (was a Warmblood cross). It has altered my plan of breeding her... In my area gaited horses are almost automatically "trail horses". So going strong 5 gaited lines might work in getting more bone, depending on what you want to do, but the "ability" to gait comes with movement less desireable for some disiciplines. (And for the record, yes, my mare does walk, trot, canter... We have also been working on a slow gait - she will rack on her own (ugly as all heck because we have no clue what we're doing) if she gets wildly off balance in a canter.). I still do dressage with her, but she is just more of a challenge for that disicipline, as it looks for purity of gaits (just easier to get from a horse who doesn't have extra "gears")

The outcrossing really depends on what you do and where you are too. If I were in an area where Saddlebreds were better known, I'd be way more likely to stay purebred than any outcross... But, in my area the breed is almost unknown, and while they might have the talent and ability of other breeds in any given discipline, they are a hard sell as a purebred.

I had a lovely gelding I just sold. This horse had eventer written all over him...trainers, coaches and other riders all agreed... But Trying to get those sport riders out to look at him without trying to quibble on price (a price any of them would have paid for an equal (or lesser) quality TB ) was impossible. In the end I sold him to a lady who just plain loved him for him, which, while I'm glad he is well loved... It's a shame in my mind, he could've done very very well in Pony Club, or even open divisions.

Interestingly enough, around me, Saddlebred crosses are "accepted"... Maybe because the buyers recognize the breed they are crossed with (especially the WB
Crosses).

So in the end it really depends a lot on what you need to expect from the foal... If it's for yourself, if it's for sale, which disicipline you want to ride, the level of the rider who will be riding the foal.... All those things factor in.

This year we will have one purebred mare and one Clydesdale mare bred - I expect both to be fabulous... But they will be different for discipline suitability, I am sure.
     
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    04-26-2013, 12:03 PM
  #12
Started
One thing you can do OP, is call the ASHA, if you are interested in a pure ASB, and ask for a copy of the stallion reference guide. Those definitely are not the only stallions out there, but it is a fun book and a good reference guide. Actually, after looking on the website, the stallion pages are available here: https://www.asha.net/members/stallions.php . The book is still a good thing to have. Most stallions ship semen. I am not sure how that works internationally.

The thing is though, a true strong natural gaited Saddlebred almost never is trained or put in the ring as a five gaited horse. They are not the most desirable. Most 5G show stallions are generally among the best conformation wise. Not always, but usually. Breeding to strong 5G show horse lines will not guarantee you a horse suitable for 5G either. The mare plays a major role in the outcome as well. I know that is not what the OP is going for, I am just saying.

I guess the most important thing that has been forgotten in this thread is A) how is the mare in question bred? And B) any pictures/video of your mare? It would be nice to see conformation and movement.
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    04-26-2013, 01:21 PM
  #13
Yearling
Thanks for the replies,all;some interesting points have been brought up.
The question was actually just a theoretical one,something that popped up in a random conversation and got me and the friend thinking and wondering. :) I may or may not be breeding my mare any time soon,alot more thought and research will be going into that before a decision will be made.


But,just for the heck of it, here's a few photos.The only shots I have of her movement are her as a baby,but at least you'll get an idea;don't have a decent video.

Her pedigree:Attaches Queen of Hearts Saddlebred

Let me know what you think of her..
     
    04-26-2013, 01:33 PM
  #14
Yearling
She's got a big motor up front,with lots of thrust from the back end..
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    04-26-2013, 01:38 PM
  #15
Yearling
Is she the filly or the dam?
Nm... Got it.

What are your plans for her?
     
    04-26-2013, 01:38 PM
  #16
Yearling
Some more recent..
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    04-26-2013, 01:41 PM
  #17
Yearling
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Originally Posted by TheLastUnicorn    
Is she the filly or the dam?
She's the filly.

Her dam is Night Ride Home
     
    04-26-2013, 01:48 PM
  #18
Trained
I have to go with others and say that the Arab Saddlebred cross is awesome, I love my mare.




But also I have a saddlebred x Perch/tb and he is awesome, might not be a world beater but he does for me

     

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