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        03-10-2013, 07:45 PM
      #41
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    I don't have the information.. That doesn't make your assumptions automatically true. They are a real breed because many people - and myself - have our horses legally registered as a Blazer horse.
         
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        03-10-2013, 07:51 PM
      #42
    Trained
    *facepalm*

    You're missing the point entirely. Just because a "registration" gives you "registration papers" it does not make the horse holding those papers a specific breed when they have no breeding standards other than height and color.

    AQHA, ApHC, APHA, JC, etc are considered "breeds" because they have set guidelines on what horses can and cannot be bred. Your "registry" does not, so the horses "registered" are not a breed.
         
        03-10-2013, 07:51 PM
      #43
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by amberly    
    I don't have the information.. That doesn't make your assumptions automatically true. They are a real breed because many people - and myself - have our horses legally registered as a Blazer horse.
    Yes, and I could register my gelding as an American Warmblood with the American Warmlood Society...but that doesn't make him a true warmblood. He's still a draft cross (Percheron/paint in his case).

    Unless the registry has regulations on what breeds can and cannot be crossed with Blazers and still be registered, it is not a legitimate breed. Those regulations would be posted clearly on their registration forms and website. Just as they are in every other breed website. Heck, even the PtHA (Pinto Horse Association) does not allow certain crosses and they are a color registry.
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        03-10-2013, 07:57 PM
      #44
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    *cough* PtHA is allowing geldings that are noncharacteristic and of apploosa breeding now.
         
        03-10-2013, 08:18 PM
      #45
    Yearling
    Also, what exactly makes a Blazer different than a QH? Because, if you re-read the description of qualities, it describes a QH pretty well....
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        03-10-2013, 08:19 PM
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    pure·bred

    [adj. Pyoor-bred; n. Pyoor-bred]
    adjective 1. Of or pertaining to an animal, all of whose ancestors derive over many generations from a recognized breed.

    noun 2. A purebred animal, especially one of registered pedigree.
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        03-10-2013, 08:32 PM
      #47
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    *cough* PtHA is allowing geldings that are noncharacteristic and of apploosa breeding now.
    But they specifically disallow draft crosses. That was kinda my point, that they specifically say on their website what crosses try do and do not allow...unlike the Blazer site.
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        03-10-2013, 08:36 PM
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    Originally Posted by EliRose    
    pure·bred

    [adj. Pyoor-bred; n. Pyoor-bred]
    adjective 1. Of or pertaining to an animal, all of whose ancestors derive over many generations from a recognized breed.

    noun 2. A purebred animal, especially one of registered pedigree.
    I also meant to bold the "all"
         
        03-10-2013, 08:43 PM
      #49
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    I just don't understand why people insist on putting so much effort into creating a "new breed" of horse that is essentially the same as a QH. What'st the point?

    Someone on here made a comment about people "forgetting that cross breeds were the beginning of purebred horses" -- Yes, this is true, "cross breedings had to happen for a new breed to be made," . . . When there were not already established breeds around.

    Also, 'back then' . . . When the QH, Morgan, and TB were being developed there was so much variety in conformation among such horses and so much effort was applied into breeding out the bad characteristics within these horses that we now know as THE QH or Morgan and so on . . . So I don't really understand what more can be done . . . And why people need to remix old genes becasue you're going to end up with the same thing . . . You're just giving it a new label . . .
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        03-10-2013, 09:29 PM
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    The breeding that went into some of these "registered" horses.

    The "founding sire" is an unregistered quarter/appendix who was bred multiple times to his own dam as well as to his own daughters!

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