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post #11 of 35 Old 02-11-2010, 05:08 PM
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I have it on good authority that the reason some of the mustangs in Idaho are bigger and of higher quality is that some of the ranchers would (or still do) go out and shoot the stallions and put thier own higher quality stallions out with them. The same things happened in Oregon and Northern Nevada.
Happens here in Oregon quite a bit. That and people releasing horses with the herds on purpose or they get in with the herd on accident. My family adopted mustangs from the Burns herd for years. We got such a variety of 'mustangs' it was pretty evident there was something else getting in with those horses!

They are a lot of work. Generally way beyond what you would get with a youngster that was used to people already. How it worked when we were doing it, you'd get a ticket and that was the order you got to choose your horse first. My Grandpa was always pretty lucky and generally got his pick of the crop.

That said, sometimes getting them into the trailer was a bloomin' nightmare. Even with the extra large stock trailer we had. Getting them out was an equal nightmare. My Grandpa had a gift with horses though and we would train them and sell them to the Forest Service for pack and riding animals.

To the OP, I think your mistaken if you think you can't develop a connection with a just bought already broke horse. If you think you are going to get an immediate connection with a mustang, think twice. They seem to be harder to get their trust, but once you do, they'll do anything for you.

If you have no experience with mustangs I wouldn't adopt one without having spent time with people that know them. It's really asking for trouble.
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post #12 of 35 Old 02-11-2010, 05:23 PM
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I do understand that they are alot of work, and that is exactly what I want. I'd rather have to spend hours working hard to get a horse to trust me then be able to jump on a horse that I just purchesed and have no connection with it.

Breeding isnt realy an issue with me, I don't care if a horse is purebred or wildbred. I just like a sturdy horse with alot of heart.
PaintedBrat,
Don't enter into this to save the horse. Go into this as with any horse purchase. Look at the horse in front of you. Regardless of breed, does the horse have the personality that you are looking for? Does the horse's conformation fit the intended use? Is the horse healthy? What do the hooves tell you about the previous year of the horses life?

There is an excellent series of articles by Dr. Deb Bennett in Equus during the past few months. It talks about proportion, breed, bone structure, and use.
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post #13 of 35 Old 02-11-2010, 05:36 PM
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You're not saving the the horse from anything anyways. If nobody adopts them they spend thier lives getting fat on the government dollar.

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post #14 of 35 Old 02-11-2010, 06:02 PM
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Probably the best preparation for adopting a BLM mustang is to get in contact with your local equine rescue organization. Trust me, they have lots of BLM mustangs

But seriously, it will give you the opportunity to look over a lot of them without any pressure. You can also talk to the rescue personell about why the original adoption didn't work; and what their recommendations would be for an new adopter. If you get lucky, there may be some BLM mustangs at your local rescue that have begun basic socialization, which is a huge plus. Doesn't mean that they won't form a bound with you, but just that they've figured out that the things that walk on two legs aren't scary and are the source of good things.
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post #15 of 35 Old 02-12-2010, 12:13 AM
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I have 2 mustangs and I love the breed. However, I agree with Kevin. I was fortunate to get the ones that I did. They are fairly well conformed with only minor flaws. However, if you are looking for a horse that you can be competative on, mustangs are probably not the best choice. They generally don't have the speed needed for most gymkhana events and they have absolutely no natural cow savvy. Everything that you want them to know, they have to be taught, even more than your regular quarter horse. Mustangs have never been bred selectively for anything other than survival and thus, have no specialized mentality. Most quarter horses, paints, appys, and even some tbs will have some natural cow sense because they have been used for that for so many generations. Mustangs don't.

That being said, if you are just looking for a companion that you can have some fun with, a mustang might be just the horse for you. However, if you are less than a very experienced horseman that has trained many horses, you should really look for one that has been trained by a professional. Training a mustang is not like training a domestic horse, their fight/flight instinct is through the roof and many of the unhandled ones will turn on you with even the slightest pressure. These horses pretty well fit into the "jack of all trades, master of none" group. They make wonderful using horses so long as looking pretty or being perfect doesn't matter. I do challenging trail rides and some ranch work (penning, sorting, roping, etc.) and mine are wonderful partners for what I do. But, I don't care if something takes all day to get finished, and sometimes it does because they are just not as proficient as other breeds.

Always remember that feeling of looking at a big, open country over the ears of a good horse, seeing a new trail unwind ahead of you, and that ever-spectacular view from the top of the ridge!!! Follow my training blog: http://robertsontraining.blogspot.com/
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post #16 of 35 Old 02-15-2010, 12:42 PM
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Lots of good advice and info here. I agree with most of it.

Like people are saying...as a competition horse, a mustang will likely not be your best bet. As cow horses...I don't know about that one.

My BO owns a mustang that was taken off the Nevadan range as a 6 month-old. He is massive and quite the character, but spooks at every darn thing. Sometimes you will have to deal with a greater flight instinct in those born in the wild than what might be present in a lot of domestically bred animals.

I think it's cool that you're thinking of adopting a 'stang, but I hope you will not let the romanticism of adopting a wild horse interfere with your decision. Mustangs are a ton of work and it's difficult to know what you're going to get when you head out to those auction/adoption type things. For a general trail mount and yeah, "jack of all trades" horse, then they might be a good bet. But for an animal that you hope to compete on in such a specialised field...perhaps not so much. And if you are still dead-set on owning a mustang, buy one from a pro trainer or make sure you send it to one. Even then, as far as working cows go, it's not a sure bet it'll work out. :)
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post #17 of 35 Old 02-15-2010, 09:47 PM
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If you want to be competitive you should look the other way. Very few mustangs are worth the time and expense it takes to get them broke to ride and doing well at anything.
That is the most ignorant thing I have ever read. Look Up on you tube , Sonny Garguilo and America .And look up sonny Garguilo mustang challenge. America was a wild mustang that he broke and trained. He is a natural horsemanship trainer here on long island. That mustang is by far the most well trained versitle horse i've met. And PERSONABLE , he LOVES sonny.. ANY horse can do ANYTHING if trained the correct way.


100 days and this is the finished product.
Simply amazing.
Bridle-less and all. The horse is amazing


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post #19 of 35 Old 02-15-2010, 10:11 PM
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ANY horse can do ANYTHING if trained the correct way.
WRONG. I can tell you now that not ONE of my horses could jump an olympic height showjump course no matter how well trained they were. My Arab could NEVER be successful in WP no matter how well trained. My stockhorse could NEVER do well in an open hack class no matter how well trained. Most sprint bred TB's could NEVER bury their ass in the sand after a cow like a QH cutter.

Conformation and mind definitely matter.

If your statement was true, then there would be NO point of having individual breeds.

That is the most ignorant statement I have ever heard.

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post #20 of 35 Old 02-15-2010, 10:13 PM
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Training cannot override build - It cannot replace want or try or mental aptitude. It can't support a horse with weak hocks enough to be sound to do high level cutting. It can't change a WP horses natural low head carriage to enable it to do modern dressage. It can't create the instinct to work a cow.

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