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    05-14-2012, 09:07 PM
  #11
Showing
That's so cool! I wish my family had that cool of a horse history
     
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    05-14-2012, 09:15 PM
  #12
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Originally Posted by SaddleStrings    
His head almost looks andalusian like. He could be a Dutch WB? Awesome pics! I think I've seen the jumping pic before somewhere.
that'd be crazy if you have! I mean, I have them on anther thread on here about saddle restoration but another than that....
     
    05-14-2012, 10:16 PM
  #13
Green Broke
His head looks like my friend's Oldenburg... maybe pare Olde?
     
    05-15-2012, 04:54 PM
  #14
Showing
Here's a Canadian Warmblood



Similar face shape... hmm..
     
    05-15-2012, 05:02 PM
  #15
Weanling
The thing with WBs in that they have way more boxy a body than a TB - and than this horse has. TBs can be chunky, and I've seen the 'heavier' look bodies and heads, but WBs just aren't that curvy, and have higher set tails and a different angle of croup... typical WB build is a very rectangular body, whereas TBs haven't. Compare the body shape of the WB above to the OP's pictures...

He could maybe be part, but even my 1/4 WB 3/4 TB shows massive differences in body shape from a classic TB, so I'm really not sure he's anything other than pure... maybe very small percentage something else, but he's defo not any high percentage WB.
     
    05-15-2012, 08:00 PM
  #16
Foal
Very neat! I did some digging around before posting, it's a very interesting point in showjumping history for sure.

Given the time in history and the fact that this horse was bought and owned in the US, it is highly unlikely that he had any warmblood in him. Most warmblood breeds were not seen outside of Europe until well after WWII - most were not imported into North America until the late 50s-60s.

American horses from that era had a lot more "harness horse" blood in them than you would think. Jenny Camp was a notable U.S. Olympic horse at the time, and she was mostly TB but was thought to have some standardbred blood. That's definitely possible for this guy; saddlebred, cleveland bay, hackney, arabian or morgan blood is possible as well. Reading about the US Army Remount Service might help you get an idea of the horses your great grandfather may have worked with at the time - not sure if this one was a product of it since he was purchased at auction, but many of the horses he went to the Olympics with were.

I wouldn't rule out full TB, they were a dominant riding horse breed and some of the non-racing (ETA scratch that, turns out Gunrock in the link below did race!) studs were fairly coarse in appearance. Look at this guy (full TB):

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Thanks for sharing that bit of family history with us!
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    05-15-2012, 08:51 PM
  #17
Trained
Looks TB to me with a common head.
     
    05-15-2012, 10:13 PM
  #18
Green Broke
My friend's Oldenburg... I think she looks similar to your grandfather's horse.

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    05-15-2012, 10:21 PM
  #19
Foal
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Originally Posted by aggiegirl14    
This is King Hi. My great grandfather bought him in the 1930's for $6 on his way to slaughter and was later chosen to be on the Army Equestrian Team and compete in the Olympics for the US! I have been digging up some history on them lately and was wondering what breed y'all thought King Hi must be. I only have one decent picture, but I'll post some extras for fun :)






I love that weird riding helmet he's wearing!!!!!
     
    05-15-2012, 10:29 PM
  #20
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Originally Posted by Gremmy    
Very neat! I did some digging around before posting, it's a very interesting point in showjumping history for sure.

Given the time in history and the fact that this horse was bought and owned in the US, it is highly unlikely that he had any warmblood in him. Most warmblood breeds were not seen outside of Europe until well after WWII - most were not imported into North America until the late 50s-60s.

American horses from that era had a lot more "harness horse" blood in them than you would think. Jenny Camp was a notable U.S. Olympic horse at the time, and she was mostly TB but was thought to have some standardbred blood. That's definitely possible for this guy; saddlebred, cleveland bay, hackney, arabian or morgan blood is possible as well. Reading about the US Army Remount Service might help you get an idea of the horses your great grandfather may have worked with at the time - not sure if this one was a product of it since he was purchased at auction, but many of the horses he went to the Olympics with were.

I wouldn't rule out full TB, they were a dominant riding horse breed and some of the non-racing (ETA scratch that, turns out Gunrock in the link below did race!) studs were fairly coarse in appearance. Look at this guy (full TB):

Home

Thanks for sharing that bit of family history with us!
Well that sure was enlightening!!
     

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