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    02-03-2007, 12:19 AM
Wow - thanks for all the responses. I have been out of the loop for a few days.

Just so everyone one knows. Mac's dame is a QH, she is Holly Mac Zippo (she has Boston Mac and Zippo Pine Bar in her back ground), his sire is a Paint, he is Southern Skipper (he has Skipper W and Three Bars in his background).

Now just to clarify I do not know much about the APHA or AQHA or the horses that are great. I am still learning. However, I do not that my colt is great. He is built and that is what I wanted. I knew from day one that he would be a well put together horse.

I am enjoying the feed back so please keep it coming.

If anyone has any info on the horses in Mac's background - let me know what type of horses they were and how well he is I know that he is not the next World Champ or anything but any info that you give is appreciated...

Thanks bunches!!!

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    02-03-2007, 05:48 AM
What's your horses full registered name?
    02-03-2007, 09:10 AM
His registered name is His Southern Mac - I have not received his papers yet. I sent them to the APHA in December, they notified me that they received it and that I should have them shortly...So I wait.

    02-03-2007, 10:17 AM
Do you have his sire's and dam's names? Zippo Pine Bar is an awesome producer of Western Pleasure horses.

Here is a little info about Zippo:

Boston Mac:

His sire, Triple Chick:

Skipper W (I love this guy crossed onto a good Impressive line! ):

Three Bars:

Your paint is related to mine through don't Dare Skip Me on his sire's dam's line.

    02-03-2007, 11:23 AM
Six generations back:
Breeze Bar
Color: ch
Height: SI-100


AQHA Champion. H-24, P-22.
SI-100, AAAT, Stakes Winner.
1961 Champion Quarter Running Stallion. 69-16-9-15, $34,394.
Stakes Wins-3, 2nds-3, 3rds-7. 1960 ALB 440, 1st, State Fair Stallion Stakes. 1961 LA 350, 1st, Lightning Bar Stakes. 1961 LA 400, 1st, Chicado V Handicap. 1959 ALB 440, 2nd, State Fair Stallion Stakes. 1961 LA 350, 2nd, Shue Fly Stakes.
A Leading Sire Race ROM Qualifiers. Sire of AQHA Champions: Breeze Bar Jr, Breeze Bar Lady, Feature Breeze. Sire of Express Man, 1972 Honor Roll, and AQHA Superior Cutting and Chariot Racing Champion. Sire of Shamel Charade, AQHA Superior Western Pleasure Horse.
Sire of 28 ROM Producing Daughters, including Camptown Girl, Dam of Town Policy, AQHA Hall Of Fame, 3 X Quarter Running Champion, and Earner of $862179.

5 Generations back
Beau's Bonanza
Color: sor
Height: 85%nfqha

Sorrel QH stallion.
AQHA champion, High point halter stallion 1971, Superior halter horse, Arena ROM.
BREEDER: Clair O.Nelsen, Duluth,MN.
SIRE OF: AQHA Ch, High point halter, Show ROM.
87.5% Foundation.

6 Back
Coys Bonanza
Color: sor

Superior Halter,
AQHA Champion,
1963 AQHA High Point Halter Stallion,
`62 Race ROM,
7 Racing Points,
AAA, SI-85, 16-1-3-2, $289.
Breeder: Bill Coy.
69% Foundation.
Add`l picture:

More impressive is Skippers Lad (6 generations back as well)
Color: sor
Height: 15.2H

Breeder/Owner: H.J. Wiescamp, Alamosa,CO.
SKIPPERS LAD won 4 Grands and 2 Reserves for 23 halter points. SIRE OF: World Champion Offspring(1), Superior Halter Offspring(3), Superior Performance Offspring(4), AQHA Champion Offspring(5), Race Money-earners($516 total).

I found little on the dam. But overall, pretty good lines.
    02-03-2007, 12:08 PM
Most of the names in his pedigree are farther back. I look in the first 3 generations, maybe 4. But honestly, after that it gets pretty much bred out. He's got some great horses in his pedigree though!

Have any pictures? Id love to see them!

    02-04-2007, 01:23 AM

So if I understand correctly, what matters is what is on his papers - not what we can find in his background??? Is that correct???

I do have pics - they are posted under the picture page - I am not home with my computer to post to this thread but I will when I get home tomorrow. If you look under the pics the subject is pics of my colt Mac - he was 11 months old in those pics. I have not taken any in a month or so. I will get some new ones as soon as I can...

Kristy - where did you find all the info on his background?

I am new to the papered horses - the other horses that I have had were not papered and I new very little about I am learning what to look for in pedigree.

Thanks again everyone!!!! :)

    02-04-2007, 12:46 PM
I love BS Paints, and minimal-white Paints if those aren't the same thing. Technically, they are Paints, but I do think they should have their own registery, AbsPHA or something like that. They're so special that they should have their own registery. It's not like "Oh, he's half QH but he looks like a QH so he'll be registered as an AQHA." No, that's not it.
They're QH/Paints or TB/Paints and that's allowed in the registery. "A horse can be registered as a Paint as long as it has Thoroughbred, Quarter Horse, and/or Paint background." According to a horse book I read.
So yeah, that probably didn't make any sense. But it would be cool if they had their own sub-registery, but could be registered as Paints as well
    02-05-2007, 12:16 AM
I looked up the pedigree on Very good site when tracing lineage.
    02-05-2007, 06:30 PM
I have seen some wonderful paint horses that have no color or very minimal color. Im not going to lie, I LOVE a horse with loud coloring but it is not my main priority when picking a horse. My mare is registered as a pinto because of her coloring because the studs papers were lost when the owner died....ya long story lol. ANy ways, if you like the look of the horse and its demeanor and conformation it should not matter even if it can be registered or not, only if you are really planning on breeding I guess.

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