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post #21 of 39 Old 01-09-2009, 11:50 PM Thread Starter
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i did forget to mintion in the summer hes alot more smoky color in the back and almost black on his front if that makes a diffrence

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post #22 of 39 Old 01-10-2009, 02:05 AM
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I once showed a grulla and she also had the dorsal line but she was more greyish... so i believe you have a dun/buckskin on your hands, dear

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post #23 of 39 Old 01-10-2009, 02:59 PM
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I would say dun. I had a grulla and he was definitely grey, no brown on him at all.

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post #24 of 39 Old 01-10-2009, 03:59 PM
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I forgot about the dorsal stripe, seeing as he has one....I'd say dun.
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post #25 of 39 Old 01-10-2009, 04:15 PM
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i dont have pictures of his mom or dad i know his dad is a black tobiano and that hes the only offspring that isnt a black/tobiano . as far as the dam i know shes a qh thats all .
I have always though that he was too mousy for a buckskin but thats just my opinion i have always had appys and thier colors are just as they apper but i have become colbys rider i just wanted everyones opinion on his color never thought Dun though
Grulla is a type of dun - just with a black base. If he was a dun it would be a grulla.

So from the sounds of it, we really need mom's info. We know he got the black & tobiano traits from dad. Now we need to know if mom passed on agouti + cream (which would make this guy a smutty buckskin) or if she had dun (making this guy a grulla). Is there any way you could find out more info on the dam? Call the breeder and see if you could get a couple pics of her?

BTW - the smutty/sooty gene can cause a regular buckskin to take on a more mousy look. That is why you can't know for sure on this particular horse until you get the dam's info/pics or get a DNA test done. UC Davis has them - get the test for the cream gene (their Dun test isn't 100%) - if he has cream, then he is a buckskin, if he doesn't have cream then he is a grulla/black dun.

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post #26 of 39 Old 01-10-2009, 09:16 PM Thread Starter
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well case solved hes a sooty buckskin i guess his dam is a palomino

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post #27 of 39 Old 12-19-2012, 07:26 PM
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He is a smutty buckskin. i work for a breeder and we had one over the summer.
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post #28 of 39 Old 12-19-2012, 09:41 PM
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Super pretty whatever he is!
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post #29 of 39 Old 12-19-2012, 09:52 PM
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Looks to me like either a dunskin (buckskin dun) or a brown dun
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post #30 of 39 Old 12-19-2012, 09:56 PM
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There is absolutely zero doubt that he's carrying dun.

I am torn between whether to call him a grullo (black + dun) or a browskin dun (brown + cream + dun) though. The thing is, you can't just discount grullo. There are so many shades of grullo that it is entirely possible that he is one. They can range from the silvery gray color to more brownish.

This is grullo

but so is this
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Add onto that the fluffy winter coat and colors can be interpreted in many different ways.

I could guess more accurately if you had pictures of him all slicked off in the summer, but as it is, the only way to tell for sure would be to have him tested.
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