Originally Posted by Rebelappy
i don't have pictures of his mom or dad I know his dad is a black tobiano and that he's the only offspring that isnt a black/tobiano . As far as the dam I know she's a qh that's all .
I have always though that he was too mousy for a buckskin but that's just my opinion I have always had appys and thier colors are just as they apper but I have become colbys rider I just wanted everyones opinion on his color never thought Dun though
Grulla is a type of dun - just with a black base. If he was a dun it would be a grulla.
So from the sounds of it, we really need mom's info. We know he got the black & tobiano traits from dad. Now we need to know if mom passed on agouti + cream (which would make this guy a smutty buckskin) or if she had dun (making this guy a grulla). Is there any way you could find out more info on the dam? Call the breeder and see if you could get a couple pics of her?
BTW - the smutty/sooty gene can cause a regular buckskin to take on a more mousy look. That is why you can't know for sure on this particular horse until you get the dam's info/pics or get a DNA test done. UC Davis has them - get the test for the cream gene (their Dun test isn't 100%) - if he has cream, then he is a buckskin, if he doesn't have cream then he is a grulla/black dun.