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post #1 of 13 Old 06-28-2009, 03:41 PM Thread Starter
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buying an appie any help?

why do appaloosa horse have short manes?also any other traits unique to the breed?im considering buying a really beautiful blanket appie but ive nev rowned one wanting a barrel racing horse,are they normally fast?how is their endurance and overall athletic ability?im wanting a comp horse are they good for that?heres ia a pic of the appie im looking at right now.

he looks like a beauty doesnt he?anything i need to know before buying him?thnx!
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post #2 of 13 Old 06-28-2009, 03:46 PM
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I know plenty of people who use their appys as barrel horses and competion horses, i also know some who use them for competitve trail rides.

I don't know much about them myself though.

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Appaloosas tend to do well with shorter manes.. I never see one long. They sometimes stick up and look funky. :P

Appaloosas can sometimes be stubborn-- but then again, any horse can.

It's hard to tell, but s/he looks REALLY downhill.
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A tendency for short/sparse manes/tails is believed to travel along with the genes that make the distinctive appaloosa colors and patterns. This does NOT mean ALL app-colored horses get those traits-- but there is the potential. Sooo, some, but certainly not all colored Appaloosas have a thinner/shorter mane/tail. There are also some Appaloosas (both colored and solid) with normal or even thicker/longer than average manes and tails. Some bloodlines seem more sparse-haired than others.

Potential for speed, endurance, and athletic ability will depend on the individual you are looking at-- their conformation, attitude, and their ancestry-- since there is a variety of types and bloodlines in Appaloosas. Do you have a link to the pedigree of the horse you are looking at?

Its hard to tell much about the conformation of the horse in the photo you posted, since its head is down and legs are all different angles standing casually to graze-- do you maybe have a better photo? The horse also looks young....?

Nice color and pattern--love the nice distinct spots in the blanket!

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no these are just the pics the seller sent me,yes he is 2-almost 3 yrs old.
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Most Appies I know change patterns pretty dramatically over the year. A friend of mine owns an Appie mare in her mid-teens, and up until a couple of years ago she was solid chestnut. Now she has faint, blotchy grey spots that get clearer with every spring shedding! Oh, I'm told that mare went to some State level (4-H, I think) show in barrels years ago with a previous owner. She is still ridden in speed events and does decent, but is calm and cool as a cucumber between runs, not at all strung up gaming horse, lol.

Your potential buy's speed will depend greatly on her type and breeding. Like Paints, I've seen both stock and sport type Appies, and all sizes. I don't see why the stock types wouldn't do comperably to a QH in speed events. It's hard to say what type yours is closer to, and she'll change a bit as she fills out. Her pedigree is your best friend right now as far as deciding her potential careers.

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post #7 of 13 Old 06-28-2009, 07:42 PM
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Most appaloosas will have sparce manes, but like eastowest said, it can differ with breeding. My app has a very thick mane but it's slow growing and his forelock is very baby fine. He also has what they call a 'rat tail, meaning his tail is thin and will also probably never reach the ground.

Performance wise, it really depends on how well the horse in question is built, his breeding, and his training. Appaloosas are related rather closely to QH so they can have rather quick bursts of speed. My senior app takes his spurts of youthful joy and can sprint pretty quick across our pasture.

My family and I mostly show in halter/conformation classes so, I'll try and give my best opinion of the young 'in, but I'm no judge. :)
His neck looks to be on the short side but, I imagine that it's also going to be muscular. His chest looks deep and should probably have a good lung capacity. His bottom line looks smooth. The one thing about his build that I didn't particularly like, was his back right leg. It doesn't tie well into his body from the picture. I don't know, it could be the angle of the photo. -shrugs- I would ask the seller to send another picture. One more clear and with the horse's head up. You can't really tell what a horse looks like in a blurry FBI-ALIEN-ENCOUNTER type photo. lol
I love his coloring though. My app is marble so, I didn't get one with that white blanket, but I love 'em! :) Hope my comment helped some. Overall, if you can see a better picture of the colt and he looks clean in his apearance then I say go for it. It's really up to you.
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im maybe going to go and look at him later this week.they say he is kid broke and is fast.he looks sweet.but how well do appaloosas usually do in barrel racing?would he do well enough so that i could compete in high school rodeos?
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>>> im maybe going to go and look at him later this week.they say he is kid broke and is fast.he looks sweet.but how well do appaloosas usually do in barrel racing?would he do well enough so that i could compete in high school rodeos?

Hi Chika,
Do you have a pedigree for him, or know anything about his sire and dam?

Like I and other post-ers have said, his potential for barrel racing will depend on what he is bred to do, and what his ancestry did.

For example, here is a 2008 colt I bred--

His pedigree:
Exalted Appaloosa

His dam has produced Medallion winning, ROM earning, and National Champion Western Pleasure horses. His sire was a Halter Champion who was sired by a National Champion Western Pleasure horse/National Champion Halter horse. His pedigree is full of Halter and Pleasure winners. This colt himself likes to travel "low and slow". (He was "at attention" in this photo.) He is not in a big hurry to get anywhere, never runs very fast for very long, seldom carries hid head above his withers. This is really really well bred Appaloosa, but he would not, IMO, be really competitive in barrel racing. He could learn the Barrel pattern and might be really fun to play around with as an all-around horse, but he is not bred to run fast, and doesn't seem, so far, to want to go fast.

On the other hand, here is this year's Non-pro National Champion Barrel Racing Appaloosa (Its called Camas Prarie Stump Race at Appaloosa shows, and its run horse against horse).

His pedigree:
Zevis Rockett Appaloosa

This horse's sire was a race starter who sired ROM performers in speed events like Barrels, and his sire was a Thoroughbred race horse who sired stakes race winners and earners of millions of dollars on the racetrack. This horse's dam was sired by a really fast AQHA race horse who sired really fast race horses and also was well know for siring Barrel racers. This horse would be able to be trained shown in other events besides speed events, but I doubt he would be a very competitive Western Pleasure horse. He is bred to be fast, and he obviously likes to go fast and is good at it!

I hope this helps illustrate why its pretty much impossible to tell you what this Appaloosa you are looking at might be good at, without knowing more about him.

Appaloosas are pretty well known for being versatile and able to do almost anything (and/or being willing to try!)-- but to be truly competitive in a specific event, the breeding behind the individual can make a major difference.

Laura Lyon

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post #10 of 13 Old 06-30-2009, 08:55 PM
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i have had both appies with both thypes of hair LOL. i had a app that i would use for team roping and i swear he could never wear out!!! i love them for working but as stated before its all in the breeding the ones we have now are more of the leaner "show" build and my ropping horse was the think bull dozer build. here is a pic of our stud to show that they can have nice manes
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