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    12-28-2013, 08:40 AM
Can I register this mare?

Hello, I'm not really sure where to post this.... Hope this is ok here.
I'm thinking of buying a mare. She is solid bay, three years old. Her owners refer to her as a 'grade', and seem to think she cannot be registered, as her Dam is AQHA, and her sire is APHA. What's up with this? I once owned a registered paint mare, and she also had an APHA sire, and AQHA dam. I thought the two registeries were somewhat interchangeable, with some variations in regards to color patterns; breeding stock registry, etc. Anyone have any knowledge on this subject?
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    12-28-2013, 08:48 AM
If they did not file the proper stallion reports to APHA, then your horse cannot be registered. It will cost them money to correct this, and they probably do not see the value.

If you can get them to sign the breeding certificate, etc, and the sire and dam are in their names, you can get her registered.

Check with them first, because if you initiate the process, APHA will pursue them, and if they don't respond, they will be suspended....

    12-28-2013, 10:10 AM
Quite frankly if you want a registered horse you need to buy one with the paperwork already in order.

While the mare does qualify to be registered with APHA if her parents are already registered, if the proper paperwork wasn't done at the time of breeding and then foaling it would be a nightmare and quite costly.
    12-28-2013, 11:44 AM
JCnGrace, I hope not! I actually bought a mare a few years ago, and she was unregistered, but it turned out that APHA was 'running a special', and older horses could be registered for just $150! That went very smoothly, but like I said, I don't know if having two differently registered parents will mess things up..??
    12-29-2013, 12:40 AM
Shouldn't, I bred my APHA stallion to AQHA mares and never had a problem. I think I did have to send APHA some paperwork on the mares their first breeding but once the mare was on their list nothing special was required for subsequent breedings.

That may be your spoiler right there. APHA would have no authority to force the mare owner to provide that paperwork if they are not willing to do so and I can't see AQHA forcing the issue since the resulting foal would not be registered with them. If the people who own the dam and sire are willing to step up and do what it takes then you might be ok.

My niece went through something like this when she had a mare bred and the stallion owner didn't send in the stallion report after the breeding season. Hers was the opposite, APHA dam and AQHA sire. APHA sent several letters to the stallion owner requesting a breeding report but they could do nothing to force the stallion owner to send it in. I think it took her almost 2 years to get everything settled and the foal registered. And then she had to threaten to sue the stallion owner to get them to do the paperwork.
    12-29-2013, 12:43 AM
Oh and just to clarify that nothing special had to be sent in, the regular yearly breeding report had to be sent in and then once the foal was born more paperwork had to be sent in, and then you could actually send in the paperwork to get the foal registered. LOL
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    12-29-2013, 04:36 AM
There are so many possible combinations of paperwork situations in your case that your best bet would be to have the registration information of the parents (registered names and/or registration #s) in hand and call the APHA to discuss it with them. They will tell you all the steps, paperwork and fees that would be required, and you will certainly need the cooperation of the dame/sire owner to establish parentage (which is the purpose of the Stallion Breeding Report). Even in the best case, I imagine you should be prepared to pay (for a 3 year old) several hundred $$s to fix this all up.
    12-29-2013, 09:21 AM
OK, well thanks everyone! I'll just have to ask the owners and see what happens on their end. Thanks a bunch!

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