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    06-10-2010, 04:14 AM
Warmbloods in general have a lot more Thoroughbred in them than they used to. An Oldenburg I used to ride actually got mistaken for a Thoroughbred quite often, despite his brand (which people seemed inclined to miss).
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    06-10-2010, 04:27 AM
I have a warmblood cross, he can be reli stubburn and grumpy and used to ram me up the walls if he didnt want to work but after time he jumps massive with style and schools lovely still a tad grumpy but he is great!!! ILOVEWARMBLOODS .......sometimes lol
    06-10-2010, 10:13 PM
My absolute dream horse is the Holsteiner. It appears to be the most successful breed for showjumping and dressage. I am tall and weigh about 185 so it occurs to me that I need something big like a WB to carry me w/o to much trouble. Aren't WBs just technically superior? They have more strength and impulsion than any other and a calm disposition to boot. That is why they excel in jumping and dressage. I'm on the lookout for one now but I only have about a $5000 budget. Sigh
    06-11-2010, 07:21 AM
Wow it amazes me at how mis-informed people are about what a warmblood actually is. Maybe try looking into the stud book information. There are incredibly strict guide lines for WB societies, particularly the older breeds such as the hannoverian. Most definitely not just a case of chucking a thoroughbred over a draft!

Yes, some WB's ARE overpriced because of the warmblood name. But this is on a smaller individual scale. Just like in any breed, there are going to be the 'duds' which the owner tries to sell for big dollars because of the breed and try to suck in unsuspecting buyers who are keen to be able to say 'I have a WB (or whatever other breed it may be)'. But overall, as has been said numerous times on their thread and many others I'm sure, a well bred warmblood, bred specifically for a certain discipline will be sold for a high price because of the phenomenal cost of breeding that horse, training it, registering it and competing it.

As for the Wb's vs. TB's discussion. Well I've had a few of both. From what I've seen, those who refer to Wb's as 'dumb bloods' do not have the skill to ride one of these horses, and need a more 'electric' type that will react to a more 'dumbed down' aid. I do find it amusing when people refer to them as dumb bloods though, when the vast majority of horses competing/training at Grand Prix dressage level are Wb's... how many Qh's, Tbs, paints, x breeds etc. have you seen doing GP dressage SUCCESSFULLY?? Not many I'll bet, not compared to how many WB's there are! This is because the Wb has been bred to have the brain and build for the higher levels of dressage. The Wb will think about a problem rather than just go off it's rocker like many a tb will when faced with a problem. Many horses will not go past medium level dressage because it fries their brains. But these horses are supposedly 'smarter' than a 'dumb blood'?? Go figure...
How the WB is built also needs to be taken into consideration. Yes you can do a reasonably dressage test on just about any breed of horse, no problems at all, you can train them a bit of lateral work, they can go on the bit and get a little collection. But unless the horse is built to carry it's weight over its hindquarters it is not going to cope in the higher levels. WB's have been bred to cope with collection, but also having the stamina to work with extensions as well (the Iberian horses are GREAT at collection but not so good with extensions, so this is where the WB has become the more successful dressage horse).
Tb's are not built to sit on their hindquarters and 'dance'. They are built to move flat to the ground to run as fast as they possibly can, using the forehand to steer and power on. A WB on the other hand is built to use the hind end to steer and for power ;) (trying to put this into simple terms!). Yep, there's some 'freak' tb's that can give a reasonable wb a run for its money, hell, I'm pretty stoked with my current horse who is a TB, he's VERY solidly built, he's up hill, short backed with a lovely sloping shoulder and already showing a talent for collection. But you don't come across many like that.

This is the same argument as say putting a draft horse or arab into a western pleasure or reining class per say. The Qh people would be fighting tooth and claw that their humble little QH's are the champs out there because they have been PURPOSE BRED. Exactly the same with the Wb's ;)
    07-11-2010, 08:43 PM
Recently added a ISH to my barn and I am totally in love with the breed now! He has the agility of a TB with kindness and strength of the Draught. Would definitely add another if given the chance!
    07-11-2010, 10:57 PM
I love them! They're the ultimate performance horses. Powerful, graceful and downright gorgeous. You'd be hard-pressed to find a Grand Prix horse that isn't warmblood/part warmblood. The European's definitely know how to breed sexy horses!
    07-12-2010, 03:03 AM
I have never been around a WB but I absolutely love and respect the WB breeds. They are incredible. I have heard they can be very hot headed but then again, I have heard of so many that are absolute dolls. I think it really depends on the individual horse to be honest.

- Brie.
    07-24-2010, 03:49 AM
I was always under the impression that a 'warm blood' was any heavy horse bred to any 'hot' horse lol. Boy do I feel silly. Then again, my research and studies have gone ALL into just draft horses lol.

I'm personally VERY put off by the price tag. Anyone willing to put the love and care into a horse shouldn't be limited by a price tag. A good breed is a good horse, period, and training doesn't always have alot to do with it.

My 'accedent' horse is now the love of my life (who I thought was a warm blood because she's a belgian cross lol!) I was a VERY green horse owner, and I was lied to when she was given to me (yup, totally free). I was told she was three and ready to break...after two years of trying to figure out and work with a VERY crazy horse, I find out that she was only just a year old when she came into my hands...yet, with my silly back yard training and really shoddy riding due to confidence and back issues, people who ride A-circut shows can't believe how well put together she is, how well she listens and works with the aids they give. I had one person ask if they could buy her! They didn't really offer me any money because before they could, I said no. She could easily be trained up to be some great A show winner, but that doesn't mean she has to be...she just needs to stick around for the next 100 years and keep me happy and loved lol!!!

I guess what I'm trying to say, is that everyone deserves a good horse, regardless of breed.
    07-28-2010, 02:34 PM
I can talk from both sides of the fence since I've had several breeds and crosses- can't emphasize enough getting a sound, good moving horse who has a good MIND- if you don't have those, I don't care what it is or how much it cost- it'll be problems. I currently have a young Dutch gelding I saved my ! Off to get but before that had a draft cross who made it to the FEI levels. They have all been different and all challenging at some point in their career- and as someone else said, it's in the training. But as long as you have a good minded sound horse who moves reasonably well, you can make amazing progress. WBs are fine and generally do well, it's true- but you do not have to have one to succeed. IMHO. :)

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