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post #21 of 46 Old 04-09-2010, 12:16 PM
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There is discrimination in every sport where judges decide the winner. Not really much you can do about it.
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post #22 of 46 Old 04-09-2010, 12:25 PM
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ya, ive heard some people talk about how paints cant do dressage, but theres a GORGEOUS paint at the barn that is an oldenburg, and he could do prix.st george no problem. its the hose, not the color, and ive very rarely seen discrimination by judges around here... although i have seen the judges friends score 90's when they deserved sixtys... haha oh that still makes me go sour

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This is new to me, I have a Half arab/paint and everyone has said nothing but postive things about her future in showing...
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I showed an Arabian for several years in 4-H, and there was a definite 'bias' toward my horse in the ring, no matter how good he performed that day...he didn't move like a QH so most judges didn't give him more than a passing glance. I even had one judge tell me at one show, that I needed to stand him squarely and not let him stretch out and show himself off...I told the judge I was sorry, but I was absolutely not showing an Arabian like a QH, because he's NOT a QH...he is a separate breed, with separate show styles; I told her to look it up in the AHA handbook if she was uncertain of how he should be shown! The judge didn't like that answer.

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post #26 of 46 Old 04-09-2010, 10:46 PM
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I agree. I have an Appaloosa mare who jumps, does Dressage, does barrel racing, and anything/everything I ask of her. So many people say that she isn't a good horse before they see her do anything.

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post #27 of 46 Old 04-09-2010, 11:08 PM Thread Starter
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I agree. I have an Appaloosa mare who jumps, does Dressage, does barrel racing, and anything/everything I ask of her. So many people say that she isn't a good horse before they see her do anything.

i just tell people i like my horses with a bit of color :) no paint or appaloosa is exactly alike. its original
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same with blue eyes :p :[

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post #29 of 46 Old 04-09-2010, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by megannnn View Post
okay imma vent.

i hate how just because my horse is a paint he isnt well excepted in the hunter/jumper world. he isnt very excepted in dressage or eventing in my area either. They havent even seen him move and write him off because he has two colors on his coat? i dont think his coat color makes a difference! or HIS BREEDING!! i hate how a horse isnt good because he isnt worth 20,000 dollars and imported or is a fancy thouroughbred (no offense to those with horses like that). well im perfectly happy with my 2500 dollar horse who is the bomb and does anything asked.just because he has a different coat dosent mean he cant out jump a chestnut or grey or bay. !@#$% it makes me sooo maddd!!!!!! okay vent session over.
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Oh my gosh, I totally agree with you! Enter the ring on a horse like mine (I'll put up a picture of him here) and everyone is like, "Oh, he is out of place, you don't worry about beating them." Yeah, just watch the judge give "that Paint" the blue ribbon. He moves just as well as the Thoroughbred hunters and, heck, we get noticed more by the judge in pleasure classes because we stand out! Maybe the people who have Thoroughbreds are just jealous. (No offence to all Thoroughbred people. Just a select group of them.)

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post #30 of 46 Old 04-10-2010, 12:06 AM
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The fact that discrimination still exists, especially when it's seen on rare occassion in the Jumper or Eventer world, where having a "pretty" horse is NOT supposed to matter, makes me a bit sick. It's rare that it'll happen in those 2 disciplines, but I had a discrimination experience with one of my students over the fall. He took his Appy to his very first schooling event, & the dressage judge actually marked him down for the spots. I can't remember the exact words she used, but it was definitely clear on the scorecard that that was the reason he was marked down. He placed 5th in the event, as his XC & SJ rounds were clean, but the fact that he was penalised in dressage for something that wasn't an actual error on his part absolutely disgusted me.

The judges at schooling shows are often not rated judges. Just someone.....I would have complained BIG TIME to the show organizer if a judge had made any such comments.

As for paints in dressage and eventing. Someone is making huge profits breeding pinto warmbloods. They are highly sought out in those disciplines. Check out Art Deco and his get.

As for the more subjective, none performance based disciplines....I won't comment for fear of flaming.
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