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    04-28-2009, 11:29 AM
Originally Posted by Qtswede    
any pink skin within a white marking (or whiter in this case) means they're not purebred. Even if they have full blood arab papers, something else is in the woodpile, so to speak. That is what my friend that specialized in arabs told me.
I have never ever heard that.
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    04-28-2009, 04:04 PM
I would say maybe just a hint of QH in her, other wise she looks like an arab. She is a cutie.
    04-28-2009, 06:06 PM
She looks full Arab to me.
Defiantly Polish.
My mare had one pink dot on her nose and she was polish Arab.
Solid Arab linage.
    04-28-2009, 08:38 PM
She really could be purebred. Especially considering her age, she looks like the old style arabs. In fact I've seen many purebreds that looked extremely similar to her (so much so that I wouldn't doubt similar breeding). If she was conditioned, cleaned up nice, those arabian features would pop out quite a bit more.
She very well could have some other breed in there, but I would guess it's a small percentage.
Did you get her from her breeders? You might ask them (if you haven't already) her parents names, and if they were registered.
    04-28-2009, 09:52 PM
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I'm pretty sure her parents were registered since according to her breeder she could be registered, the breeder just didn't do it for an unknown reason. =S

I think I'll ask my riding instructor, who used to know this lady, whether she has any contact info for her. It would be interesting to see her pedigree and actually solve the mystery. Haha
    04-28-2009, 10:47 PM
Originally Posted by Qtswede    
does she have any white markings on her nose (yes, I know she's grey) any pink skin within a white marking (or whiter in this case) means they're not purebred.
This is actually false. Many purebred arabians have white skin under their markings. Arabians are blood tested before given their papers (purebreds), it's pretty difficult to sneak another breed in there (unless, of course, a partbred is given a similar looking purebred's papers)

There are even maximan sabino purebreds. (yes, there were even sabinos in the original desert horses).

The no white allowed thing was a relatively recent (within the last 50 years or so I believe) trend, in the arabian show world. White markings were considered unattractive, and so horses with noticable white no one bothered to register. This doesn't mean they weren't purebred.

Luckily, the trend didn't last

Check out these guys (all purebred sabinos)

    04-28-2009, 11:14 PM
I think she could be full Arab. I know Arabians that aren't real typey, but they're definitely purebred. She's pretty. :)
    08-24-2009, 01:22 PM
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Well I'm pretty sure I found her dad. Ammunition Arabian

And interestingly enough I was looking back through the horses in his pedigree and she looks really similar to Comet:

IMHO they have a very similar back end among other things.

Funny thing too, if you look at my conformation picture of Lacey in the OP and if you look at this picture of Comet, they have their legs exactly the same way. Haha Randomly.

And it looks like whoever said she was probably Polish is right, about her dad's side at least.
    08-24-2009, 11:40 PM
Originally Posted by Qtswede    
does she have any white markings on her nose (yes, I know she's grey) any pink skin within a white marking (or whiter in this case) means they're not purebred. Even if they have full blood arab papers, something else is in the woodpile, so to speak. ....
I own an Arab and I am involved with two Arabian breeding/showing barns. I haven't ever heard such a thing. Can you show me something here on the net that talks about this?

I will ask around the Arabian people I know, but I am pretty sure that the skin under all white markings is pink (no matter what the breed)?

With this logic then pure bred Arabs cannot have any white markings?
    08-25-2009, 12:47 AM
I think she could be full, she's probably polish bred.

The saying about white skin under white markings is definatley not true. My horse is full blood arabian, I've got his papers and he comes from one of the leading arabian horse breeders in the nation, and he's got white skin under his socks and snip.

Also, you really can't base it off of her looks. Here's my purebred guy, who is extremely stocky and has a very straight profiled head. He also doesn't carry his tail high, and has long, sweepy movement instead of the high action that is accepted in the arabian world. He's also very, very well bred. His dam's sire is El Ghazi, his sire's sire is Cognac. He's also triple Bask, he just didn't get the typey looks.

So, honestly, you will never know for sure if she is purebred or not without papers, but I think she is =]

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