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    02-01-2011, 10:06 PM
  #1
Foal
Question Does this mean she's a warmblood?

Okay,

I have an Appendix Quarter Horse. Since she has TB in her, does that make her a type of warmblood?

Forgive me if this is an ever ignorant question, but it just popped in my head, and I want to be positive.
A girl I know has a Belgian/Saddlebred cross. Apparently he is considered a warmblood? So wouldn't it make sense if my mare were a warmblood also?
     
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    02-01-2011, 10:31 PM
  #2
Trained
Here's my very noobish explination...

You just have an appendix quarter horse. There are the American Warmbloods that are seeming to get more popular but it seems like a lot of them are just draft crosses and right now it doesn't take a whole lot to call your horse an American Warmblood. I don't know too much about their requirements for registry.

From what I know about Warmbloods, they are selectivly bred, registered, and inspected in order to maintain quality lines that are bred with a specific purpose in mind. Right now I don't know of any associations where an appendix would fit into that.


Someone with a little more experience can probably explain better than that though :roll: I tried...
     
    02-01-2011, 10:45 PM
  #3
Foal
Yeah, that's what I thought. Like I said, I just wanted to make sure. Lol. What you said made sense to me! But then again, I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to topics such as these. Lol
     
    02-01-2011, 10:45 PM
  #4
Super Moderator
My understanding of warmbloods, and especailly American Warmbloods, is that they must have some draft in them. An appendix has a hotblood thbd and a qh, which is not a draft breed, though they aren't a hot blood either.

An appendix cannot be considered a warmblood, as far as I know.
     
    02-01-2011, 11:08 PM
  #5
Green Broke
I always thought that there were two types of use for the word warmblood, the 'blood' classification and the breed. I always thought there were hot bloods (tbs, arabs) and coldbloods (drafts) and warmbloods which were other breeds often that incorporate bits of two along the line.

Warmblood in the breed sense has always struck me as an umbrella term for breeds such as hanovarians, holsteins, trakehners etc. Now there are also newer breeds such as American Warmblood or whatever. I thought to be a member of this group the horse had to be purpose bred from within acceptable stock and have recorded lineage. Simple crosses would not be acceptable.

I don't really know though.
     
    02-01-2011, 11:17 PM
  #6
Showing
No, Warmbloods are established breeds now. Draft crosses are just that, draft crosses. Mixing a hot breed with a cooler breed just results in a cross, not a Warmblood.
American Warmbloods aren't held in very high regard in the Warmblood community, as the registry is very - VERY - lenient, allowing all sorts of odd crosses.
     
    02-01-2011, 11:18 PM
  #7
Banned
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Originally Posted by tinyliny    
My understanding of warmbloods, and especailly American Warmbloods, is that they must have some draft in them. .
Incorrect. Those that think crossing a draft with a TB creats a warmblood have perpetuated this incorrect assumption probably to "enhance" their own draft cross or to attempt to sell them for more than they are worth.

As far as the AWS is concerned...

There is no requirement that they MUST have draft.

Here is the eligibility requirements.

Warmbloods | Sport Horses | Dressage Horses
     
    02-01-2011, 11:25 PM
  #8
Super Moderator
Well, I think those Hanoverians and Dutch Warmbloods and Oldenburgs and such, have some distant connection to a more draft like breed, something that might have been used as a heavy warhorse.
     
    02-01-2011, 11:26 PM
  #9
Showing
They originate from cold/hotblood crosses... but that's in the history of the breeds. They're set breeds with set standards now, if that makes sense.
     
    02-01-2011, 11:27 PM
  #10
Super Moderator
Well, I stand corrected. What DOES make a warmblood? The one that I always found most confusing was the Oldenburg, who seems to be a mishmash of a ton of things and then they call it an Oldenburg? I don't get it.
     

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