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        09-15-2013, 04:39 PM
      #1
    Foal
    Question Dream Horse - No Idea on breed, could use some input

    Ok so for a while i've been writing up a mental list of what I want my eventual dream horse to have, so far all I have is

    Tall (16.5hh ++)
    Black
    Ability to go fast
    Strong
    Either a Stallion or Gelding

    Now I am a compelte novice when it comes to horse breeds, in fact horse riding in general I know very little other than basic knowleage you pick up from general lessons

    Note in case it helps people suggest

    My dream vision is me galloping on said horse through a forest

    Note II: I am NO WHERE NEAR owning my own horse yet, i'm still a undergraduate student so, don't list prices, this is something I do when it comes to thing I like; example i've even got a dream guitar in mind as I play guitar
         
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        09-15-2013, 04:48 PM
      #2
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tomsta    
    Ok so for a while i've been writing up a mental list of what I want my eventual dream horse to have, so far all I have is

    Tall (16.5hh ++) There is no such thing as 16.5, there is only 16.1.2.3 then 17
    Black
    Ability to go fast Most horses are fast
    StrongMost horses are strong
    Either a Stallion or GeldingEven some of the best riders can't/wont deal with stallions, they are not the magical horses you see on TV. They can easily hurt you if given the chance.

    Now I am a compelte novice when it comes to horse breeds, in fact horse riding in general I know very little other than basic knowleage you pick up from general lessons

    Note in case it helps people suggest

    My dream vision is me galloping on said horse through a forest

    Note II: I am NO WHERE NEAR owning my own horse yet, i'm still a undergraduate student so, don't list prices, this is something I do when it comes to thing I like; example i've even got a dream guitar in mind as I play guitar
    My answers are in RED
         
        09-15-2013, 04:49 PM
      #3
    Teen Forum Moderator
    You want the elusive Black Stallion of everyone's dream ;) What exactly are you wanting input on? Whether your dream horse is a good idea? I'd say no, but I have a gigantic list of reasons for that which you may not even be interested in.

    If you'd like to eventually like to own a giant black horse with a need for speed, you need to start with basic lessons, more advanced lessons, leasing, then owning a school master gelding or mare who has 'been there done' that. You may get lucky and get one that happens to be black (by the way, most black horses fade in the sun so many blacks don't even fully look black by the time summer comes around), or it may be an old brown. Maybe it will be a grey. Its color is nothing next to its personality and dependability. Only after owning a horse like that should you ever look into buying a big, fast horse- and not a stallion. Very few people, IMO, ever aquire the skill to properly handle a stallion.

    For the record, my dream horse was a big black gelding with a bald (white) face and socks. I ended up with a scarred, floppy eared, noodle-legged, accident prone brown yearling and a sourpuss chestnut, and I wouldn't trade my girls for the world!
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        09-15-2013, 04:58 PM
      #4
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Endiku    
    You want the elusive Black Stallion of everyone's dream ;) What exactly are you wanting input on? Whether your dream horse is a good idea? I'd say no, but I have a gigantic list of reasons for that which you may not even be interested in.

    If you'd like to eventually like to own a giant black horse with a need for speed, you need to start with basic lessons, more advanced lessons, leasing, then owning a school master gelding or mare who has 'been there done' that. You may get lucky and get one that happens to be black (by the way, most black horses fade in the sun so many blacks don't even fully look black by the time summer comes around), or it may be an old brown. Maybe it will be a grey. Its color is nothing next to its personality and dependability. Only after owning a horse like that should you ever look into buying a big, fast horse- and not a stallion. Very few people, IMO, ever aquire the skill to properly handle a stallion.

    For the record, my dream horse was a big black gelding with a bald (white) face and socks. I ended up with a scarred, floppy eared, noodle-legged, accident prone brown yearling and a sourpuss chestnut, and I wouldn't trade my girls for the world!
    I was asking for input on what breed it should be, cos I can't just say i'll have a jet black horse, I need to know what breed(s) would be best suited
         
        09-15-2013, 05:06 PM
      #5
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tomsta    
    I was asking for input on what breed it should be, cos I can't just say i'll have a jet black horse, I need to know what breed(s) would be best suited
    Well that's dandy and all but really the only breed specific trait your gave is height (I'm guessing you meant 16 and a half hands? That would be written 16.2). Strong and fast - I mean, ANY horse can be strong and fast. And any horse can be a gelding (Whatever you might think you do not want a stallion).

    It sounds like you want the storybook/movie horse (to go galloping through the forests) and the reality is horses just aren't like that. It takes a LONG time for a horse to be able to go off in the forest on his own with no problems. It's not just 'buy a horse and have fun with it' - the amount of work you put in to a horse to get to that point is HUGE unless you shell out 10,000+ for a fully trained deadbroke rock of a horse - and even then it takes daily work to KEEP them that way. Just please don't think it's going to all butterfly farts and rainbows - it's more work and money than anything.

    BUT. Enough about that, I suspect once you start looking you'll realize as much. If you want a tall, fast, strong horse a TB could fit the bill - or a TB/Percheron cross, if you want that big strong bulk with the sleekness of the TB (and the height). You'll also want a trainer to go along with the horse.

    ETA: Don't shop for color. Yeah black would be great but you can't ride color - it's about the horse, its abilities, its temperament. Color should be a last factor in your decision. Don't look for Black Stallion because you won't find him - horses are NOT like that.
         
        09-15-2013, 05:06 PM
      #6
    Teen Forum Moderator
    It depends on what you were wanting to do with it. Every breed that I can think of can be black in color, and every breed can be a boy or girl obviously, so your only real restriction is the size...in which case you are obviously not going to want a pony.

    From personal experience, I'd say its best not to have a breed restriction where you'll turn down a certain animal because of its breed. You'll pass up a lot of good animals that way. The only way I'd say TO have a restriction is if you were an advanced rider wanting to compete in a specific thing. For example, if you wanted to get into higher level dressage, I'd hardly suggest that you go buy yourself a grade appaloosa ( no flaming, appy lovers! XD ) or if you were hoping to get into calf roping I wouldn't tell you to go buy a refined Arabian. Otherwise, any breed is about as good as the other.


    ETA: Gosh darnit, Shoebox beat me to it!
         
        09-15-2013, 05:07 PM
      #7
    Super Moderator
    There is no way of telling what breed should it be. Many very different breeds come in black. When you start taking lessons, you will learn that there are various styles of riding and even more riding disciplines within these styles. Over time, you will experiment with those styles and disciplines that will appeal to you. Each riding discipline may call for very different set of skills that the horse must acquire to be good at it. And different breeds are prone to have different natural abilities, for example, there are breeds that are bred for speed, for agility, for endurance, for pulling power, etc... There is no perfect breed of black horses that will suit every need of every rider - you will just have to find that out for yourself when you are more experienced and truly ready for a horse (horse ownership is no fairytale!), but, until that, just go out there and learn! You will have to get many, many miles under saddle until you get just a taste from the very surface of the horse world.
         
        09-15-2013, 05:12 PM
      #8
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Saranda    
    There is no way of telling what breed should it be. Many very different breeds come in black. When you start taking lessons, you will learn that there are various styles of riding and even more riding disciplines within these styles. Over time, you will experiment with those styles and disciplines that will appeal to you. Each riding discipline may call for very different set of skills that the horse must acquire to be good at it. And different breeds are prone to have different natural abilities, for example, there are breeds that are bred for speed, for agility, for endurance, for pulling power, etc... There is no perfect breed of black horses that will suit every need of every rider - you will just have to find that out for yourself when you are more experienced and truly ready for a horse (horse ownership is no fairytale!), but, until that, just go out there and learn! You will have to get many, many miles under saddle until you get just a taste from the very surface of the horse world.
    I was taking lessons last year, but i'm still in what i'd call the casual rider stage where I don't really know what is good or bad in terms of horse qualities (to use the term) I trust the school to pair me with a good horse
         
        09-15-2013, 05:28 PM
      #9
    Weanling
    Good for you for realizing you're not ready. I also love to have a "dream scenario" when I'm into something even if it's not currently relevant. I had been drooling over horse ads for years before I got my boy (who ended up matching the long-time picture of my dream horse quite well, even though I wasn't searching based on my dream coloring).

    So, since we're playing the dream game, I would say when you're ready a long way down the road, maybe a big black/dark bay warmblood would be nice if you end up being the kind of rider who matches well with those breeds. And since it's just a dream for now, there's no need for me to mention that 17.1+ is a lot of horse. ;)

    Something like this boy: Stunning ALL Around Prospect - FOR Sale OR Lease
         
        09-15-2013, 05:35 PM
      #10
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SammysMom    
    Good for you for realizing you're not ready. I also love to have a "dream scenario" when I'm into something even if it's not currently relevant. I had been drooling over horse ads for years before I got my boy (who ended up matching the long-time picture of my dream horse quite well, even though I wasn't searching based on my dream coloring).

    So, since we're playing the dream game, I would say when you're ready a long way down the road, maybe a big black/dark bay warmblood would be nice if you end up being the kind of rider who matches well with those breeds. And since it's just a dream for now, there's no need for me to mention that 17.1+ is a lot of horse. ;)

    Something like this boy: Stunning ALL Around Prospect - FOR Sale OR Lease
    WOW that pretty much excatly matches the picture I get whenever I think of my dream horse, i've always wanted to ride or own either a Jet Black or Pure White horse (yes I know very fairytale), shame it's in America, i'm from the UK

    Also just to double check, Gelding means that the horse has has his testicles removed, or has he had both testicles and penis removed (sorry it's a slightly Juvanille / silly question)
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