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post #81 of 93 Old 02-22-2013, 11:45 PM
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What about a 16hh Quarter/Cross for Dressage?
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post #82 of 93 Old 02-23-2013, 12:16 AM
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That tells us nothing at all. If its built we with good paces and an ability to collect then yes.
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post #83 of 93 Old 02-23-2013, 04:42 PM
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I'm a little late to this thread... I like Arabians for dressage. They have such a nice trot and many have great extensions, and (for me) they are the ideal height. Here is an Arabian gelding I used to own (now since passed away).

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post #84 of 93 Old 02-26-2013, 02:57 PM
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am little late the the forum
Completely agree with the idea that one needs to know what you want to acomplish
Any horse can do lower level
Many cannot be competetive at higher level
I am now on my 2nd Friesian - I am an older ( so actually old) re rider adn the calmness was an importatnt factor.
My first horse ( who died a year ago) had too long a back to go beyond 2nd level but he was the kindest horse in the world and was a fabulous "dressage horse" for me
My current horse is better suited with lovely gaits - walk trot and canter and is quite forward
He could in my opinion do pretty well with a good rider - but he has ME
For the more timid less althletic rider the mind is a huge issue for dressage
But most Friesians do not have the build for really high level work
( this is NOT me on him)
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post #85 of 93 Old 02-26-2013, 04:00 PM
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Allie, I think it's just the 'novelty' value of a big clumpy hairy draft doing a couple of Dressage moments that have been trick trained is quite entertaining ;)

Train them Dressage at home, but don't cry and call 'warmblood snobbery' when they are not well received in competition!!
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sometimes I just want to make a hanoverian thread and talk about how my horse can do anything and is a better breed than anyone elses.....

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post #86 of 93 Old 02-26-2013, 04:05 PM
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Totally agree with you that if you are looking for a dressage horse, you would not go looking for a Clydesdale. The video of the Clydesdale was to give an example only. It took place in Australia and I agree he was not one of the best but he was still quite nimble for a heavy!. Clydes doing dressage is still quite new and there aren't many or any videos posted of the really good ones and I have never taken a video of my Patrick doing dressage. If I find one, I'll post it. They are really amazing horses. I also know that there is a guy in Israel who rides a magnificent black Shire that does top level dressage. I'll research that one too. Clydesdales and other heavies are only just starting to become popular as riding horses and it is as people try out new things that we are discovering more and more about what these horses are capable of. You really have to be passionate about heavies to take them into the competition world because a lot of people do look down their noses and some of the comments can not only be offensive but downright insulting. Heavies will have a place one day in top competitions just like any other horse. Its just that the majority of genuine 'Heavy Horses' are rare breeds and there aren't that many of them around and neither are there that many people who will look at them as riding horses. Things are moving forwards though and especially in the UK, riding heavies is becoming extremely popular. ALready some competitions are looking into special 'ridden heavy' classes like they do in Scotland. Its only going to be a matter of time. Look at the Para Olympics - there was a major step forward!
Can I just make the point that, living and competing in Scotland and in the heart of Clydesdale territory (have ridden Clydesdales both at the Breed Show an the Royal Highland) that Ridden Clydesdale show classes are very different from dressage? When I've competed dressage, even in the lower levels we don't see many Clydesdales in Scotland - Clydesdale people here concentrate on competing in the show ring rather than a dressage ring. They know they can win championships in the show ring, and yet their horses would struggle even at elementary dressage some of them! I love Clydesdales and have ridden and competed a few, but in Scotland they certainly aren't popular as a dressage breed - serious Clydesdale people here compete their horses to their breed strengths. Just what I've found here in Scotland, since you use Scotland as an example of dressage for Clydesdales - it's not, except in breed specific Clydesdale dressage classes at breed shows, an then they are intro/prelim tests.
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Gypsygirl, of you are inferring that I feel a hano isbette than every other breed, you are increasingly off track and playing into childish territory.

My point, is, was, and always will be that there are breeds that have been designed with various sports in mind, and as a result are going to be more suited and more successful than breeds who have been 'designed' for tasks which are not at all related.
I would certainly never expect my Hanoverians to be successful over a quarter horse in barrel racing, would not run faster than a race bred TB, would not work in harness better than a hackney, or draft breed.
So, why is it expected that any breed can go up and win at a high level of Dressage, and when beaten by a WB (which by the way does not include just the Hanoverian but a multitude of types all very much bred towards success in the dressage arena), they cry unfair and breed snobbery?
You won't see me strolling into a reining thread and shouting blue murder because I think a Hanoverian is just as good as a QH and anyone who thinks differently is a breed snob.
Get the point that I am making, NOW?
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post #88 of 93 Old 02-26-2013, 04:25 PM
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Gypsygirl, of you are inferring that I feel a hano isbette than every other breed, you are increasingly off track and playing into childish territory.

My point, is, was, and always will be that there are breeds that have been designed with various sports in mind, and as a result are going to be more suited and more successful than breeds who have been 'designed' for tasks which are not at all related.
I would certainly never expect my Hanoverians to be successful over a quarter horse in barrel racing, would not run faster than a race bred TB, would not work in harness better than a hackney, or draft breed.
So, why is it expected that any breed can go up and win at a high level of Dressage, and when beaten by a WB (which by the way does not include just the Hanoverian but a multitude of types all very much bred towards success in the dressage arena), they cry unfair and breed snobbery?
You won't see me strolling into a reining thread and shouting blue murder because I think a Hanoverian is just as good as a QH and anyone who thinks differently is a breed snob.
Get the point that I am making, NOW?
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no im saying that its annoying that people are always arguing that drafts are the best and can do everything !

I think its annoying that if you have a warmblood people think you are automatically a snob ! I am agreeing with you =]
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Whoops sorry, I misread your post! That'll teach me for reading the forum before I'm even out if bed :S

It does get very frustrating, having it assumed that as WB owners we are not just snobs, but RICH snobs. Nothing could be further from the truth!
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post #90 of 93 Old 02-26-2013, 05:39 PM
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if they only knew how poor I was...and how hard I work !

People think because I have a nice horse everything is easy and I don't have to work hard...HA
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