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    07-17-2011, 06:18 PM
I have no idea if hubby's nephew has the brand registered with the state because all of our brands switch sides (hip, etc) depending on if its a mare or a stallion for the Andalusians.

Do you know what the requirements are in California?
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    07-17-2011, 06:53 PM
Faye, you may be right about Escamillo. He wasn't branded with us but I was told it was a freezebrand gone bad but since I wasn't there, you're probably right.

The one I compared it to for so long was our stallion, Beleto. He was branded by us (we've always done freeze) but the place he was at at the time didn't take care of it properly and it ended up looking very similar to Escamillo's.

    07-17-2011, 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by PecuniaMiAmor    
I have no idea if hubby's nephew has the brand registered with the state because all of our brands switch sides (hip, etc) depending on if its a mare or a stallion for the Andalusians.

Do you know what the requirements are in California?

Call your agg department in your state. It is not so much there is a requirement but it is more how you register your brand. Mine is registered with my design and it must be located on the left side of hip. As that is how my brand is registered with each state. I would like to register my brand in a few other states but just have not gotten around to it yet.
    07-17-2011, 07:12 PM
Originally Posted by faye    
we have 2 central registrys in the UK, Farmkey ltd and Freezebrand ltd.
They both have a standard brand, farmkey has a 4 figure brand (so 4 random letters and numbers) registered to that one horse, freezebrand has a 3 figure brand.
However both companies will do personalised brands provided they are not already in use.

Brands are registered to the horse and along with microchip numbers will help identify the horse in case of theft. Farmkey have a 99% recovery rate for stolen horses, Freezebrand is a similar figure.

Horse ownership details are held in the National Equine database and you "should" register the addition of the brand with the NED when you have it done.
That is cool. I wish in a way that there was one or 2 central registries for brands here in the US as it would make it much easier but if you figure the numbers of horses cattle and other animals who are branded it would be hard. Also the brand is to the person not the horse. SO all my horses carry the same brand. There is no distiction between animals.
    07-17-2011, 07:37 PM
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So what happens when you sell a horse then?

Freezebrands here are to identify the horse (to joe public one bay horse with no markings is the same as any other bay with no markings) and return it to its rightful owner. If you sell the horse the new owner has to do a change of ownership with the registry that applied the brand (and also with what ever society the horses passport came from) in order that if the horse is ever stolen it could be returned to them. Also unles you can provided the appropriate paperwork most sales won't sell a horse with a freezebrand, and if they do they normaly check with the registry to ensure it isnt stolen.
    07-17-2011, 07:43 PM
Brands in the US are normally done by the breeder. So if you see a brand on the horse it does not necessarily mean that the person who branded them still own them but if you recognize the brand you know who the breeder was. Also you can put the brand on their registration papers and once the papers are changed to the new owners name that will prove ownership and will help identify the horse.

The thing is that most average breeders people do not brand their horses. You see this more with big Ramoda here in the US. Babcock ranch 6666 ranch and so on all have very well known brands that have been owned by these ranches for years and years. So when you see one of their brands on a horse you know where it came from.
    07-17-2011, 07:50 PM
Yea, our brand is acknowledged through the breed registry and is more so to designate who bred the horse. All of our Andalusians are branded in some way and the ones we bought from Spain, etc are distinguished based on their brand. Its like a status symbol...
    07-17-2011, 10:39 PM
OK, now I have more questions. My brother-in-law has a registered brand in the state of Nebraska. I am n ot positive, so I would have to ask, but I believe when he registered it he got it so he could put it on the shoulder, rib, or flank of his cows. Now, if he let us, could we use his brand on our horses? If we were to use it, would that affect selling the horse if we chose to do so later in life? Or, would it just be smarter to microchip them?
    07-31-2011, 11:45 AM
I have Standardbreds and our industry freeze brand the tattoo number on the side of the neck. Freeze branding uses nitrogen unlike hot branding that burns. On grey horses it will still grow back white, but it does grow back. You might want to consider micro chips or a tattoo brand that goes under the lip of the horse.
    09-08-2011, 11:52 AM
Freeze Brand

Hello Everyone! I'm new to this forum and I have just adopted a recue horse with the following freeze brand on his side under where the saddle would go. 85UC

I have never seen this on a horse before. He looks like a big Irish Sport Horse or TB.Freeze Brand.jpg

Thank you for your help. I have tried to attach a photo, but not sure if I did it correctly.

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