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  • Obizuth chestnut friesian

 
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    01-05-2007, 04:39 PM
  #21
Foal
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    01-05-2007, 08:46 PM
  #22
Weanling
I got that quote from Wikipedia actually =) good place to go when your in a hurry! Lol!

They also have more information on the breed formation, more information than I gave =) But then again, I was giving the history by memory, lol!

He is absolutely stunning, I have never seen such a.. normal(?) looking friesian! He is like a super hero in disguise or something! Haha!
     
    01-05-2007, 09:40 PM
  #23
Foal
Ps. Im really only on here because a friend told me to join, I once had a horse. I ride both english and western and show hunter/jumper and started when I was about 5.
I still work with horses (now mostly mustangs) but my main focus now is birds, I could tell you a hell of a lot more about birds than horses.
     
    01-05-2007, 11:59 PM
  #24
Yearling
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The Friesian is most often recognized by its black coat color, a long thick mane and tail, and "feather"--long, silky hair on the lower legs, deliberately left untrimmed. The official breed rarely has white markings of any kind; most registries allow only a small star on the forehead for purebred registration. Though extremely rare, and not accepted for registration in most cases, Friesians are occasionally chestnut.
I still have a hard time beliving this...I would maybe belive it better if it was not wikipedia....For your information Wikipedia is not always true that's why Professors and teachers advise you to not get your information from Wikipedia, You can post your own information on wikipedia that's why it is not always right.
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Friesian Horses are always black. White markings are not allowed on the body or legs. They have a long, thick, flowing mane and tail and pronounced fetlock hair.
This qoute comes from http://www.imh.org/imh/bw/friesian.html#breed

If you find me another qoute that's not from wikipedia I might start beliving you....

I also have heard that the breed may at times become a dark brown only because of the sun...They are always born Jet black.
     
    01-06-2007, 02:20 AM
  #25
Weanling
Barnrat, if I was going to give more heartfelt advice or insight, I would do more homework than just a quick search if I wasn't already 100% sure of what I was talking about ;) Friesians aren't my dish, and the only things I knew about the breed is that they were war horses, got refined over the years, and were black and hairy ;)

Wikipedia is by far not a perfect source of reference, but it is extremely convenient.. it was just a quickie search for me to use to check some information right quick, since I too was surprised to see a chestnut friesian ;) I had to go feed the herd about 5 minutes after I saw this post, so I didnt have time to do my proper "homework".

The thing that gets me, is she knew the parents of that horse, and they were both black, very ordinary friesians. Heck, if I saw it myself I would have a hard time believing it!

And honestly, it really doesn't bother me if you "start believing" me or not.. Im not here to prove a point, or be a know it all, or sound important or smart. I enjoy participating in the conversations, and adding a word in edgewise when I can ;) I don't claim to be an expert on Friesians, so honestly, my word -really- doesn't count anyways ;).

-Skippy!

**ETA** Did more homework on Chestnut Friesians:

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Of course the color is (almost) always black with no white markings, all though a tiny star is permissible – usually only a few hairs.

These horses were larger & stockier than the Friesian of today, and could originally be found in a variety of colors from grey to bay to chestnut. Over centuries they were selectively bred to produce only black. Occasionally still, an odd chestnut Friesian foal will be born.
Source: http://www.themanestreet.com/authors...s/freisian.htm

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Since Chestnut is recessive it can be "hidden", for many generations, thus it may seem to pop up out of nowhere at times. This is how the beautiful Chestnut Friesian mare (left) came about. Research several generations back may be required to find out exactly where this recessive gene came into play.
Source (with photo!): http://www.equinecolor.com/chestnut.html

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Blood-typing proved that Obizuth is indeed a purebred Friesian, despite her unorthodox hair color. The FHANA registry finally decided that she could be registered in the foal book registry but that her offspring would be unregisterable. This means that desite being one of the few chesnut Friesians (last count a grand total of 4) in the world, her monetary value is slight. That's all right, she NOT for sale anyway.
Source (with photos!): http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/4075/obizuth.html

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Are they always black?

They are now, but up-to a 100 hundred years ago, there were white, roan and chestnut Friesians horses. White is now not acceptable except for a small star on the forehead. The ideal horse is jetblack, but very dark black and rusty black is acceptable. A Friesian can become brown if they are sun or sweat bleached. On very rare occasions, a chestnut foal is born.
Source: http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/friesian/faq.shtml
     
    01-06-2007, 12:40 PM
  #26
Yearling
Thanks Skippy, For finding that many qoutes I am starting to belive it more, And the fact that the gene comes from like 100 years ago, (there was history) That rocks. Still kind of amazed though.

Anni: Do you think you could put more pictures of that horse in your barn on here? That would be so cool!
8)


SORRY, I kind of gave you guys a hard time.
     
    01-06-2007, 02:52 PM
  #27
Weanling
Thats totally ok sweetie! I don't know much about this breed anywhoo, I just admire them from afar. Come to think about it.. I don't know much more than the ordinary stuff about Gypsy Vanner horses (my dream horse) perhaps because I know I can't afford one, and I don't want to get all obsessed and get my hopes up! I have a habit of over-studying my favorite breeds, but then I get really obsessed with getting one, lol!

I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that registered chestnut friesian mare in the second to last, and last links.. In that second to last link she looked JUST like a breed standard friesian.. only chestnut x___x!!!!

So I totally learned something today! Lol!

*hugs*
     
    01-06-2007, 03:38 PM
  #28
Yearling
Yeah, that's what got me to belive that there were chestnut friesians because of that one and only picture.

The Friesian at anni's barn I am sure will grow up big and look more like one too!
     
    01-06-2007, 05:57 PM
  #29
Foal
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    01-07-2007, 05:37 AM
  #30
Yearling
He still does not look like a friesian, though I do somewhat belive you.....Do you think you could ever get me one of him standing square, even though he is not your horse.
     

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