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        02-19-2009, 11:25 PM
      #21
    Chat Moderator
    That is true, pretty is as pretty does. And some breeds are better in one area over another.
         
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        02-20-2009, 01:23 AM
      #22
    Weanling
    Here are MY two more cents. I think people have every right to praise a certain breed. ABSOLUTELY. But what I don't like is when people compliment one over the other when they have no experience with either one. I agree with the fact that its all personal preference and you like what is suited for you. Personally, I'm not a FAN of the Saddlebreds, Arabians, and even Morgans. I tend to relate those to English which I was not raised on. However, I can't say that I don't like the breed because I have honestly never been around one long enough. That's my pet peeve. I think all horses have a purpose and will be used for that purpose by the right person. I am heavy into gaming, roping/cow/ranch work, and trail riding. To me, the best horse is a QH or Paint. They are suited more for my liking than a Morgan or Arab even. All I'm saying is that I think it's perfectly ok to compliment a breed. Just not over another breed that you have no background or experience with. Take it or leave it, it's my two cents.
         
        02-22-2009, 06:41 PM
      #23
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by randiekay215    
    But what I don't like is when people compliment one over the other when they have no experience with either one. I agree with the fact that its all personal preference and you like what is suited for you. Personally, I'm not a FAN of the Saddlebreds, Arabians, and even Morgans. I tend to relate those to English which I was not raised on. However, I can't say that I don't like the breed because I have honestly never been around one long enough. That's my pet peeve. I think all horses have a purpose and will be used for that purpose by the right person. I am heavy into gaming, roping/cow/ranch work, and trail riding. To me, the best horse is a QH or Paint. They are suited more for my liking than a Morgan or Arab even. All I'm saying is that I think it's perfectly ok to compliment a breed. Just not over another breed that you have no background or experience with. Take it or leave it, it's my two cents.
    Ok, i'm going to up the ante with 4 cents :]

    I have no background or experience with TB, as in I have never owned one and only ridden a few. I have however had many friends with TB's and seen many working/through various stages of training. I'm not sure if this counts as background to your POV or not... But anyway. I am still comfortable in saying that I do not 'like' TB's. I don't have to know one or be around one for a long time to have this opinion, they are not built for what I do, they generally don't have the right mindset for what I do. This is a general observation about the breed as a whole. If by chance I spent a lot of time with one TB who happened to suit what I do, this would in NO WAY change my opinion of the breed. It would simply change my opinion of that particular horse. I would still stand by my opinion that a TB is not a suitable horse for a beginner, etc. Yes, there are some that are, but generally the breed is not.

    I don't particularly like most arabs. Yet my forever pony is an arab. He is not built for what I do, yet he is one of the exeptions. He excels at gaming. He has been our zone age champion for half a decade as of yesterday.

    I guess what i'm saying is that one horse does not define a breed. The whole breed defines a breed, and this is why breed generalisations exist. Because they have to. You cannot base your opinion of a breed on an individual horse, or even a few. It is the whole breed that is taken into consideration.
         
        02-22-2009, 07:55 PM
      #24
    Showing
    Everyone is correct. I have 2 BLM Mustangs and I get so many of "those" looks and get asked all the time "Why would you want to own a crappy, imbred horse like that?" My answer is that they are more level headed than most other breeds, tend to have fewer health problems and can withstand harder use for longer time periods. I ask, "What is the difference between an "inbred" Mustang and a "line bred" QH?" The QH has a piece of paper with his name on it. I am not knocking the QH breed because I love them but rather the breeders who's horses are "The best ever bred!!! Triple bred <insert horse name here>!!" Regardless of what the breeders say, if Mommy is sister, brother is husband, and Daddy is brother, then the horse is inbred.

    Sorry for my little rant. LOL. It is true that usually the breed that doesn't suit a particular purpose will be disliked by people who don't have a use for them or have had a bad experience with one horse of a particular breed. I don't like TB's because generally they tend to be more hot than other breeds and most don't have the heavy body style that I like, Paints because I have had some bad experiences and I don't like my horses to have that much white, QH's because they are bred for little bitty bones and feet under too much muscle mass, etc. To each their own. Generally, I love all horses so long as I can ride just the breeds that I like and can just look at the rest.
         
        02-23-2009, 01:10 AM
      #25
    Foal
    Funnily enough, I always said I would NEVER buy a TB.

    Yet 5 years ago I was looking for a new pony, leaning more towards a warmblood type and I came across a horse which was advertised without a breed. Looking at the pictures I asumed he was of warmblood breeding due to his build and conformation.

    I organised to go and visit him and my first question to his owner was "what's his breeding". She told me TB, which put me off but I figured Id come all this way so why not try him.

    Well.... I tried him that day... went back 2 days later with my trainer and tried him again... put an offer on him that day and bought him home 2 weeks later

    He has a lot of TB characteristics and we have had our troubles ( I even considered selling him at one point, had him advertised and everything) and I can't explain it, but I just couldnt part with him.

    He's my best mate.
    He's no where near perfect, but he tries his hardest. I love him more than anything

    I probably wont go out of my way to ever get another TB though.
         
        02-28-2009, 05:41 PM
      #26
    Green Broke
    I agree with most on here...it's totally personal preference AND each horse has his or her own individual personality too. So you can't really say that "all Arabs are hot" or "all QH's are laid back" - they're not! It all depends on the horse...now, that's not to say that certain characteristics aren't more prevelant in some breeds than others, but still, it depends on the individual horse regardless.

    Personally, I also get annoyed when people knock on gender too...I mean yes, mares in season can be stubborn and tough to deal with sometimes depending on the mare, but I just hate hearing things from people like "Oh God I would NEVER own a MARE!" kinda makes you wanna say "ok well that's nice, thanks for sharing! But I DO own a mare, so..."

    I know everyone has personal preference, but it kinda is almost insulting when you hear comments like that, you know what I mean? Anyone else have that experience??
         
        02-28-2009, 08:39 PM
      #27
    Green Broke
    Hoofprints in the Sand, I know EXACTLY what you mean. I have a mare who is also an appy. I get slammed (unsolicited) all the time. I guess people feel they need to let me know that that unflappable, stable, surefooted, even tempered, well behaved horse is no good!
         
        03-01-2009, 01:14 AM
      #28
    Yearling
    Don't feel too bad. Appears a LOT of people hate TWH's because their founding sires had large heads and humans abuse them.

    LOL! Interesting reasons.


    P.S. I could only WISH TWH's were built like they used to be. Giant tank horses have piddled down to little pony size Walking Horses. Bring back giant tank TWH's please?
         
        03-03-2009, 08:08 AM
      #29
    Foal
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    I TOTALLY AGREE! I have a OTTB mare, have owned her for the last 9 years and EVERYTIME someone hears that I own a TB the first thing I hear is OH you POOR Thing!! Like its some sort of fatal disease or something!! Nothing irritates me more!

    Now I will be the VERY FIRST to admit that my mare exhibits most all the "typical thoroughbred traits" (i.e. Hot headedness, spookyness, and general overreactivness to EVERYTHING) and she is often characterized as "grouchy" but I can tell you first hand that these traits are LEARNED and not BRED (in her case that is) I went back to her breeders and found out more about her history. She was a sweet and inquisitive foal who was sold as a weanling and her temperment just was not suited to track life. She depends on routines and is very much a one person horse. Not to mention the fact that she had numerous abusive trainers and grooms.

    Its taken me awhile but now my mare is the calmest on trails (we use her to teach the babies trail manners), never spooks and rarely flattens her ears. And here are my quarter horse buddies telling me that my horse is so awful and yet they are the ones getting bucking fits, rears, refusals kicks etc. (not knocking on the breed, I am just commenting on certain ones I know.)
         
        03-03-2009, 11:48 AM
      #30
    Foal
    I have to agree with most of yall.. You cannot judge breeds.. everybody likes different things and therefore different breeds. And just because one breed is known for something doesnt mean a particular horse of that breed will act like that. I grew up riding a thoroughbred mare. When I turned 15 I started working at a vet clinic and I couldnt tell you how many times he told me how stupid I was for keeping her and riding her. She was the greatest horse I have ever had experience with. Her problem? She was a ONE person horse and she had to earn trust. My entire family till this day will tell you how bad of a horse she is and blah blah. And how mean but you know what I can go out there whenever and jump on her bareback and have NO issues. But she also trusts me because I am the only one who does anything at all with her and doesnt abuse her. My uncles all think they can be mean to her then when they get drunk they go get on her and one by one they get bucked off. Now I have an Arabian colt. Never really like Arabians but also never been around them. He is a learning experience. Right now I would probably say I still don't like them because he is a complete handful. But anyway sorry for my rambling.. Everybody has different tastes in what type of horse they want.. and whatever they choose should be fine and people should learn to keep their mouth shut because maybe some don't like the breed that they have.. yeah I don't know lol here is a picture of Stormy the thoroughbred I ride and Saban my Arabian.

         

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