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        02-24-2012, 10:23 PM
      #21
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    PB= pure bred
    PB= Poco Bueno
    Pb= peanut butter
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        02-24-2012, 11:28 PM
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    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Left Hand Percherons    
    PB= pure bred
    PB= Poco Bueno
    Pb= peanut butter
    Laugh!! That is hilarious..Thank you! If it's purebred say purebred..if it's Poco Bueno say Poco Bueno..I can't tell which PB you're talking about..I failed my mind reading class..
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        02-25-2012, 12:20 AM
      #23
    Weanling
    XD sorry! In my last post I substituted PB for pure bred
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        02-25-2012, 10:05 AM
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    Originally Posted by MisssMarie    
    Someone had said she would be okay because she was not PB. I was pointing out she's not PB, however she does have PB in her bloodlines
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    So I now understand what you're saying and this statement couldn't be farther from the truth. This filly's pedigree traces to PB (Poco Bueno since I'm talking about Herda) on the sire's side through Poco Dell and on the dam's side through Sonny's Champ. Doesn't matter what, where and how much TB is mixed in.

    We might be beating a dead horse on this but I want anyone who might come across this looking up information on Herda to know how important it is to look at the extended pedigree when dealing with this disease. PB died almost 45 years ago so you're not going to see his name on a normal registration pedigree.
         
        02-25-2012, 10:15 AM
      #25
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by DrumRunner    
    If you question it at all, always test, not only have the owner's test. You should have her tested as well BEFORE making any commitment to her. HERDA can stay hidden in young horses with no symptoms. It will usually surface when they are started to saddle and will just progress from there. Once diagnosed with HERDA you'll probably have to have her PTS and if she is a carrier she's not suitable for breeding.
    Well, while you are partially correct.. not fully.

    With appropriate testing to other tested individuals, a carrier can be a breeding animal and contribute a lot to the gene pool.

    You just have to be responsible and test your breeding stock before hand. A carrier will not have any symptoms of the disease, nor be affected in any way by it, so there is no reason to not use them or to put them to sleep.

    Now if you are an irresponsible breeder that isn't testing your breeding stock, then no you probably shouldn't breed a mare with HERDA (or anything more than dust bunnies).
         
        02-25-2012, 04:22 PM
      #26
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Tapperjockey    
    Well, while you are partially correct.. not fully.

    With appropriate testing to other tested individuals, a carrier can be a breeding animal and contribute a lot to the gene pool.

    You just have to be responsible and test your breeding stock before hand. A carrier will not have any symptoms of the disease, nor be affected in any way by it, so there is no reason to not use them or to put them to sleep.

    Now if you are an irresponsible breeder that isn't testing your breeding stock, then no you probably shouldn't breed a mare with HERDA (or anything more than dust bunnies).
    You read that wrong and I didn't word it well enough...I meant if the horse is diagnosed with it and it should start to affect the horse it will have to be PTS..I know that a horse can be a carrier and not be affected by HERDA and I understand that a horse has to have two genes to be affected by HERDA..
         
        02-25-2012, 07:12 PM
      #27
    Weanling
    Okay guys, so, I'm really concerned. I absolutely LOVE this filly and think she's EXACTLY what I'm lookin for - but now I think it's time I yield to your guys advice. I asked the breeder if she had been tested, and she replied: "No, I haven't ever done that on any of my horses.* None of them are*from 'Impressive's' bloodlines, so I doubt there is any problem with that genetic problem." So, should I continue lookin into this filly or move on? Her temperment is perfect for me and she's everything I want
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        02-25-2012, 08:55 PM
      #28
    Foal
    Pass. It's a buyers market right now. There is very little need to settle. And you can hopefully help support a breeder who is responsible and ethical. No Impressive.. good lord. You have met one of those breeders I referred to above.. the kind that should not be allowed to breed dust bunnies.
         
        02-25-2012, 08:57 PM
      #29
    Weanling
    I almost didn't know how to respond. I ended up saying "I was under the impression it comes from Poco Bueno?"
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        02-25-2012, 08:58 PM
      #30
    Weanling
    I'd pass on her. The breeder is clueless!
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