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post #21 of 48 Old 01-22-2010, 04:15 PM
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technically, any horse who is registered is not a grade horse. So your horse wouldn't be grade

I don't have anything against grade horses considering I technically have two. However, I don't call them grade. One is 100% TB (racebred but never registered) and the other one is registerable with the AWR or AWS (I can't remember which one accepts draft crosses). So, as long as a horse is registerable, to me they aren't grade but I know that's not the actual definition. I just don't see the point in calling them a grade horse when you know their entire pedigree!

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post #22 of 48 Old 01-23-2010, 02:59 AM
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I have three non-purebreds.

One is an Arabian/Welsh cross. They're known as Welaras, so that's what I usually call her. Sometimes I say half Arab.

Another is Haflinger/Welsh Cob. That's what I usually call her, or a half haffy ;)

Another is an Arab/who knows what! I often call her an Arab cross. Or just my pinto pony :)
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post #23 of 48 Old 01-23-2010, 08:35 AM
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technically, any horse who is registered is not a grade horse. So your horse wouldn't be grade

I don't have anything against grade horses considering I technically have two. However, I don't call them grade. One is 100% TB (racebred but never registered) and the other one is registerable with the AWR or AWS (I can't remember which one accepts draft crosses). So, as long as a horse is registerable, to me they aren't grade but I know that's not the actual definition. I just don't see the point in calling them a grade horse when you know their entire pedigree!
I think what most defines a grade is the unknown breed/parentage. Just because they are a mix of breeds & not registered does not automatically put them in the grade category, especially if the breed cross was on purpose. If that makes sense ?

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post #24 of 48 Old 01-23-2010, 08:51 AM
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One of the best riding horses I've had in a long while, Hollywood, is a grade horse. Every time I look at him, I try to figure out what breeds he is composed of. Sometimes I see a little draft in the shape of his nose, sometimes I see other breeds. For the sake of simplicity, I call him a QH X but I really don't know if there is any QH in him.

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post #25 of 48 Old 01-23-2010, 09:19 AM
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Ok, question. I looked up Grade Horse (since I was unfamiliar with the term) and says basically mixed breed and/or no registration, horse of un-known decent or parentage. Now my question. So the filly I am getting is Appi/QH but registered with ApHC....so would she still be considered Grade? Just curious!
If your filly is officially registered with the Appaloosa Horse Club, then she would not be considered grade. The reason for this is that they allow outcrossing to Quarterhorses and also to thoroughbreds. It is the same with the American Paint Horse Association. They also allow out crossing tb and qh and the American Quarterhorse Association alows out crossing to tb. When you see a qh that is refered to as "appendix", that means the horse has a tb parent. Now I don't know how the ApHC or the AQHA do it, but with the APHA, if you are registering a foal who has a qh or tb parent, they require you to have a dna test comlpeted on that foal also.
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post #26 of 48 Old 01-23-2010, 01:41 PM
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The stock horse registries can get a bit confusing because they're all interchangable for the most part. I would still consider her an Appaloosa because that's the registry she'll be registered with. It's the same as my Paint filly - the vast majority of her bloodlines are actually Quarter Horses, but I don't refer to her as a QH X Paint because if she were to be registered, it would be as a Paint.

This is a little different, but my first pony Ramar's Gold always made me laugh. He was registered as a Half-Arabian but his dam was a Belgian/Welsh so he was the furthest thing from an Arabian you could get, I swear. I have mental images of taking him to Arabian Nationals and being laughed right out of the ring It would have been priceless!


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post #27 of 48 Old 01-23-2010, 01:55 PM
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WEll I have two mutts!! =)
Roxxi is part some kind of draft and well maybe a poa or some pony. She is a 14.1 hh red roan. Excillent cart pony and teached many people how to ride. =)

Then there is Raven. She is part arab and something else maybe qh or a paint. I call her a paint.

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post #28 of 48 Old 01-23-2010, 09:37 PM
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If your filly is officially registered with the Appaloosa Horse Club, then she would not be considered grade. The reason for this is that they allow outcrossing to Quarterhorses and also to thoroughbreds. It is the same with the American Paint Horse Association. They also allow out crossing tb and qh and the American Quarterhorse Association alows out crossing to tb. When you see a qh that is refered to as "appendix", that means the horse has a tb parent. Now I don't know how the ApHC or the AQHA do it, but with the APHA, if you are registering a foal who has a qh or tb parent, they require you to have a dna test comlpeted on that foal also.
Thanks for that info. I have never registered a 1/2 anything before. I picked her up today and have her papers to fill out and send in. I'll look it over and see if they require a DNA test which I did when I registered my TB!

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post #29 of 48 Old 01-24-2010, 10:04 AM
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I have a half arab half/ half indian paint, but my understanding is that's very similar to calling her a half arab/half QH? Is there a distinct difference between a paint and a QH aside from the coloring? I registered her with the AHA as a half Arab, and was going to double register her with the APHA but I don't really see the point other than for breeding or selling appeal - I plan on doing neither. I love the cross, because you can totally tell when she is being an arab, or when she is being a paint, lol.
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post #30 of 48 Old 01-24-2010, 09:21 PM
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In New Zealand we have the term Stationbred. This refers to a type of horse which is very common here. A stationbred horse is an animal bred on hill country out of whatever horses were available to the sheperds at the time. Generally a Stationbred horse will have some TB, Clydie, QH in it. Having said that I have met Stationbred horses with Lippizaner, Arab and Morgan horse in their back grounds. Stationbreds are real mutts but we love them over here and they are fetching quite good money as they are becoming known as great eventers.
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