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        01-25-2010, 01:26 AM
      #31
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    Originally Posted by Seahorseys    
    I have a half arab half/ half indian paint, but my understanding is that's very similar to calling her a half arab/half QH? Is there a distinct difference between a paint and a QH aside from the coloring? I registered her with the AHA as a half Arab, and was going to double register her with the APHA but I don't really see the point other than for breeding or selling appeal - I plan on doing neither. I love the cross, because you can totally tell when she is being an arab, or when she is being a paint, lol.
    Paints and QH are a seperate breed, but at the same time they are kinda the same ;) Both allow registration to horses who have one APHA/AQHA horse (APHA for Paint, AQHA for QH) and the other parent a registered APHA (Paint only, not AQHA for this), AQHA (both, or TB (both). If you had a foal by APHA x APHA parents, you could register it as APHA. If foal by APHA x AQHA, you could reg as APHA. If APHA x TB, APHA. If AQHA x TB, AQHA.
    Your horse cannot be registered with APHA because Arabs aren't allowed.

    Someone correct me if I"m wrong, as I dont' have stock breeds ;)
         
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        01-25-2010, 01:43 AM
      #32
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    Originally Posted by JumpingTheMoon    
    But he's got a COP for KWPN because Rolls Royce was a KWPN approved stallion. So people call him a Dutch Warmblood, but he's not really LOL he's a Westphalien/QH cross. Clear as mud?

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    I hope you realize that COP papers are not registration papers. They just show his breeding lines. In warmblood circles he is a unregistered grade.

    Now he could be registered but you will need to actually do something with a registry that will accept those COP papers and give him full and complete registration.
         
        01-25-2010, 08:56 AM
      #33
    Yearling
    Yes, completely well aware that they are not registration papers. Thanks though! Cause sometimes that can be confusing!!
         
        01-25-2010, 09:29 AM
      #34
    Foal
    Just make up a fancy name. Look at what the fancy name did for the Labradoodle! Lots more $$ for one of them that a OOPS fence jumper Lab got in with your Registered Poodle:)
         
        01-25-2010, 09:53 AM
      #35
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    Originally Posted by JumpingTheMoon    
    Yes, completely well aware that they are not registration papers. Thanks though! Cause sometimes that can be confusing!!

    You COULD turn them into full registration papers though. May not be with the registry of birth but at least papers that will allow you to have a registered animal.

    That would be the --AWS--AWR and RPSI
         
        01-25-2010, 10:25 AM
      #36
    Weanling
    Oh heck...my gelding is a mystery horse...Looking at him you can clearly see some TB and QH but who knows what else he may have in him...for simplicity sake I just say he is an appendix when people ask...he has far to many TB traits to not have any TB in him...and in my area QH's are most common so I figure Appendix QH is the best bet.

    My arabian mare has papers...im not sure if she is registered or not....point is that if she isnt she could be...

    So there we go 1 grade 1 purebred....also my fav term for highly mixed up horses....like my friends lol she has a paint/appy/QH/arab/and lord knows what else mix...is a heinz 57...lol local terms are the best...
         
        01-25-2010, 11:36 AM
      #37
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Spyder    
    You COULD turn them into full registration papers though. May not be with the registry of birth but at least papers that will allow you to have a registered animal.

    That would be the --AWS--AWR and RPSI
    I know what the AWS is, but the AWR? Is that similar?
    What about the PHR? It's not really a registry I guess, but it is a USEF offshoot so.. who knows.

    I was told (and I'm probably wrong) that he can still earn points at breed specific shows until higher levels with the COP though will be excluded from certain classes, etc. Is that true?

    Makes no difference really, I can't imagine how many breed shows I'll ever go to.
         
        01-25-2010, 12:24 PM
      #38
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    Originally Posted by JumpingTheMoon    
    I know what the AWS is, but the AWR? Is that similar?
    What about the PHR? It's not really a registry I guess, but it is a USEF offshoot so.. who knows.

    I was told (and I'm probably wrong) that he can still earn points at breed specific shows until higher levels with the COP though will be excluded from certain classes, etc. Is that true?

    Makes no difference really, I can't imagine how many breed shows I'll ever go to.
    There are various classes that require registration in some reqistry to compete.

    Like --
    Young horse competitions

    The above is not a breed show but more representing of the registry.

    But most importantly any points won in recognized classes are awarded to the registry and horese and rider that rank the horse/registry/rider world wide. COP papers just will not cut it.

    The AWR is simular but with different goals ...looking more towards breeding....AWS looks more toward performance.

    The RHSI is considered the higher more reputable of the three I mentioned.

    PHR is an option but is not recognized by the WBFSH. (the ranking body for all registered horses) at least I am pretty sure it isn't.

    The three I mentioned are full members of the WBFSH.
         
        01-25-2010, 12:39 PM
      #39
    Trained
    I have a Clyde/QH cross mae and just call her a Clyde cross since she looks most like a Clyde.
         
        01-25-2010, 12:41 PM
      #40
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by CheyAut    
    Paints and QH are a seperate breed, but at the same time they are kinda the same ;) Both allow registration to horses who have one APHA/AQHA horse (APHA for Paint, AQHA for QH) and the other parent a registered APHA (Paint only, not AQHA for this), AQHA (both, or TB (both). If you had a foal by APHA x APHA parents, you could register it as APHA. If foal by APHA x AQHA, you could reg as APHA. If APHA x TB, APHA. If AQHA x TB, AQHA.
    Your horse cannot be registered with APHA because Arabs aren't allowed.

    Someone correct me if I"m wrong, as I dont' have stock breeds ;)

    You are absolutly right!
         

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