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post #1 of 10 Old 08-10-2012, 01:00 PM Thread Starter
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Just for fun - Arab pedigree

When I got my Arab he came with a couple boxes of papers, tracing back to "unnamed desert stallion" and "unnamed desert mare." I thought it was very interesting but know next to nothing about Arab lines.

If anyone wants to comment on his pedigree, I'd appreciate it!

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Nice pedigree.....mainly Crabbet with a portion of Polish and a little Egyptian thrown in. I bet he is a nice riding horse
All Arabians eventually trace back to unnamed desert bred horses, or sometimes they give you the name of the Bedouin tribe they came from, like "saqlawiah gidraniah" meaning a mare coming from the saqlawi gidran tribe

Now if you have nothing better to do one day, go ahead and Google the horses on your horse's pedigree. I find it quite interesting to see what traits bred through
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Nice pedigree.....mainly Crabbet with a portion of Polish and a little Egyptian thrown in. I bet he is a nice riding horse
He was actually used for breeding most of his life (well... he was kept a stud for some reason, only sired a few foals). I am of the opinion that he probably should have been gelded early. He is a gorgeous boy, but there's something a bit funny about his neck and his growth seems to have been stunted... he's technically pony sized.

I got him when he was 17 and had just been gelded. He'd never been ridden, but I did eventually train him and he was a DREAM to ride. Smooth as silk.

He did sire one colt right before I got him and, though sire and dam were both quite short (the dam was just barely over pony sized), Cheyenne is a tall, elegant boy. His owners use him for endurance and I guess he's really good. Makes me wish I'd had Royale when he was younger.

Here's Cheyenne, if anyone is interested: Cheyennepage
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He is a gorgeous boy, but there's something a bit funny about his neck and his growth seems to have been stunted... he's technically pony sized.
I doubt seriously his growth was stunted. Arabians are supposed to be short horses, and your boy is older. The current oversized monsters are NOT the breed standard. None of the original horses imported into the US were over 14.1/14.2 h, and many were in the 13.2/13.3 h range.

I had a 1982 model, and he was 14.1 h. He thought he was 18 h, though.

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Agree with speedracer. IMO the biggens loose a bit on type. You want a bigger one for your sport get one of the gorgeous crosses out there.
Can't say much about the neck from that one pic on Cheyenne's page.

And yes, they BECOME 18hh.......when they see something interesting....
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Desert, my boy thought he was all that and a huge bag of Cheetos!

He went head to head with a 17 h TB gelding named Magnum, one time. Tiny little 14.1 h Arab against a monster of a TB. He was highly indignant when I broke up the altercation. He was totally convinced he could take Magnum!

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I doubt seriously his growth was stunted. Arabians are supposed to be short horses, and your boy is older. The current oversized monsters are NOT the breed standard. None of the original horses imported into the US were over 14.1/14.2 h, and many were in the 13.2/13.3 h range.
Thanks for the info. I was wondering if he was perhaps just an "older style" Arab. I had noticed that there seem to be (at least) two very different types: the smaller, more compact Arabs like Royale and the more leggy, taller variety. He did have a very cresty neck, though. I'm just quite picky about what sort of horses should be bred. I don't think it demeans them or lowers their value to say they're not breeding quality... Royale is one fantastic horse and I'm lucky to own him. In a land of quarter horses, he made one girl "turn Arab."
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Hmm... I can't seem to find any good pics of him on this computer. I'll have to look when I get home. Here's a pic of us showing at a county fair... but you can't see his neck very well.

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His crestiness probably came from him being a stallion for so long. Many of the orginal breed standard stallions had short, heavily crested necks.

I remember Morafic, and his son Ibn Morafic. Both of them had short, extremely cresty necks. Not unattractive horses, but the shorter necks were never a favorite of mine.

I prefer the original short, stocky Arabians. I say if you want something that's as tall as and resembles a Saddlebred, why not just buy a Saddlebred?
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Xacly.....
The swan neck came through halter showing.the longer the better. Not pretty, I think. My gelding has a rather long, upright neck. But not too long or too upright. He's bred for park/English pleasure, but apparently didn't make the cut, lucky for him, I'd say.....but that's a whole other story, don't get me started
So, thinking about the versatile breeds, why do we have to breed them to look like the original breed bred for that discipline anyway. That counts for Arabs as well as QH???
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