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        10-19-2013, 04:28 AM
      #41
    Green Broke
    My first and second horses were Arabians. I go so tired of people telling me how "crazy" Arabians were. It really grated on my nerves. But I came to peace with it when I realized that the people who were trashing them were afraid of their own horses and hardly ever rode. My Arabians carried me through city streets to trails on a local mountain preserve......mostly riding alone. And they took really good care of me because I was a total beginner who never had lessons.

    So I came to realize that the trash talkers never did half the stuff with their horses as I did with my Arabians, so who were they to talk?

    Breed prejudice still bothers me though. Like everyone hates on grade horses and for what I do.......trail ride, it's the HORSE that matters, nothing else. I have had purebreds and grades. Currently a BLM Mustang, a registered Fox Trotter and her 3 yr old 1/2 QH son. Guess who's the most trustworthy out on the trails? The Mustang. He is the master of the trails and no million dollar horse could do any better for MY purposes. So when people bash on grades it bothers me because a set of papers means nothing when it comes to actually riding a horse out in the real world. I can trail ride with just about anyone on any horse and never be outclassed on my Mustang. That is HIS area of specialty.

    Unless you are very specialized in a specific discipline (and probably showing), temperment and training are more important for the average rider, IMO.
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        10-19-2013, 10:26 AM
      #42
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    I think the issue is the attitude of the people, not the ability of the horse. I have been ostracized, made fun of, disregarded, snubbed, attacked, accused of being an abuser, and all sorts of horrible things as soon as people hear my breed of choice. When I attempted 4H, I wasn't even allowed to watch the drill team practices because of my breed. I would have been banned if I had mentioned I wanted to try it. I know how to deal with it now, but when I was a kid, I really didn't understand why my sweet horses were so bad.

    I now have friends of many breeds and disciplines. They are only my friends because, while they may have chosen different breeds, they are still NICE and RESPECTFUL about my horses, and I am the same for them. Whether or not *I* would EVER voluntarily own some of those horses, I am very happy that my friend is enjoying what they are doing.

    Should we all get along? Most of the time, YES! Should we all be nice? Most of the time, YES!
    Should we all enjoy our horses and be happy for others enjoying theirs? YES!

    There is nothing I hate worse on horse forums in general when people post a picture "Look at my pretty pony! I love him so much! He is an X breed! They are my favorites!" And people say "They aren't my favorite breed, but I guess he's pretty." Dang it, just say he is cute, and leave out the parts about how you don't like his breed. That is what bugs me. Those threads are about bowing off and being proud of something you love.

    Now "What do you think about X horses?" threads are different.
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        10-19-2013, 01:38 PM
      #43
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by LadyDreamer    
    I think the issue is the attitude of the people, not the ability of the horse. I have been ostracized, made fun of, disregarded, snubbed, attacked, accused of being an abuser, and all sorts of horrible things as soon as people hear my breed of choice. When I attempted 4H, I wasn't even allowed to watch the drill team practices because of my breed. I would have been banned if I had mentioned I wanted to try it. I know how to deal with it now, but when I was a kid, I really didn't understand why my sweet horses were so bad.

    I now have friends of many breeds and disciplines. They are only my friends because, while they may have chosen different breeds, they are still NICE and RESPECTFUL about my horses, and I am the same for them. Whether or not *I* would EVER voluntarily own some of those horses, I am very happy that my friend is enjoying what they are doing.

    Should we all get along? Most of the time, YES! Should we all be nice? Most of the time, YES!
    Should we all enjoy our horses and be happy for others enjoying theirs? YES!

    There is nothing I hate worse on horse forums in general when people post a picture "Look at my pretty pony! I love him so much! He is an X breed! They are my favorites!" And people say "They aren't my favorite breed, but I guess he's pretty." Dang it, just say he is cute, and leave out the parts about how you don't like his breed. That is what bugs me. Those threads are about bowing off and being proud of something you love.

    Now "What do you think about X horses?" threads are different.
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    I agree with you 1000% I always thought horse lovers loved HORSES. I love horses in general. Everyone has a breed or "look" they prefer, that's only natural. But in my mind, a true horse lover loves HORSES first and foremost. How can you love breed XYX and hate all the rest? I don't get that.
         
        10-19-2013, 05:20 PM
      #44
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LadyDreamer    
    I think the issue is the attitude of the people, not the ability of the horse. I have been ostracized, made fun of, disregarded, snubbed, attacked, accused of being an abuser, and all sorts of horrible things as soon as people hear my breed of choice. When I attempted 4H, I wasn't even allowed to watch the drill team practices because of my breed. I would have been banned if I had mentioned I wanted to try it. I know how to deal with it now, but when I was a kid, I really didn't understand why my sweet horses were so bad.

    I now have friends of many breeds and disciplines. They are only my friends because, while they may have chosen different breeds, they are still NICE and RESPECTFUL about my horses, and I am the same for them. Whether or not *I* would EVER voluntarily own some of those horses, I am very happy that my friend is enjoying what they are doing.

    Should we all get along? Most of the time, YES! Should we all be nice? Most of the time, YES!
    Should we all enjoy our horses and be happy for others enjoying theirs? YES!

    There is nothing I hate worse on horse forums in general when people post a picture "Look at my pretty pony! I love him so much! He is an X breed! They are my favorites!" And people say "They aren't my favorite breed, but I guess he's pretty." Dang it, just say he is cute, and leave out the parts about how you don't like his breed. That is what bugs me. Those threads are about bowing off and being proud of something you love.

    Now "What do you think about X horses?" threads are different.
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    Ha Ha I had a similar experience around horses. I too never understood the behind my back whispers about my horses. I once stabled at a "Multi discipline" show barn. When I would bring my horses out to ride, everyone would leave the arena. In the beginning, it drove me nuts. Then I just enjoyed my time of "owning" the entire arena. I quit trying to work around other people. I figured, if they want to ride bad enough they would face their fears and make their way in to ride with the scary Saddlebreds. Ha ha

    It doesn't bother too much me when people say they don't care for a certain breed. It is when they add "they look deformed" or " making them hold their heads up is cruel" and my personal favorite "I HATE those horses because everyone sores them." What? Misinformed AND rude just rub me really wrong.

    Same thing with my dogs. I walk them and others cross the street to get away. They are registered therapy dogs and do huge public events with thousands of kids but there are always "those types" that will freak out once they realize what breed they are. Parents let their kids crawl all over my dogs and then say "what kind of dog is that?" when I answer they grab their kid and throw them behind themselves just in case the dog where to suddenly go nuts. Can't change stupid.
         
        10-19-2013, 08:32 PM
      #45
    Started
    Yeah, it doesn't bother me AS much now that I have learned how to real with it, and understand (somewhat) where they are coming from. I have so many more tools now than when I was a kid. When I was a kid though, it hurt my feelings a great deal. It wasn't just the 4h kids that did that. It was the parents and volunteers for the horse club. Unfortunately, I had to endure it until I moved since all 4h groups of that area were all kind of combined. In order to do the other things, I had to put up with it. When I moved, there were separate clubs. I love the 4h. I just loathe the horse groups with a passion.
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        10-19-2013, 09:47 PM
      #46
    Weanling
    I dislike TB's, specifically OTTB. We have 2 at our barn, the gelding I just can't stand, the mare I could take or leave. I have just never found one I particularly like. They tend to be hot-headed and hard keepers. But, I care for them the same as every other horse at our barn, because it's my job and because I love horses, even TB's.

    I am particular to QH, Paints and Appy's, although I do have an eye for Arabs. I love their beauty, but as my past mare showed me, I can't handle them.

    And everyone at my barn tends to hate on Morgans, yet the most beloved horse is a 20 year old QH/Morgan named Scout.

    The point of this rant? People will be biased no matter the type of animal. People are biased on dog breeds, cat breeds, Hell even Guinea pigs have breed bias. There is nothing we can do, except accept it.
         
        10-21-2013, 08:32 AM
      #47
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by mrstorres2566    
    I dislike TB's, specifically OTTB. We have 2 at our barn, the gelding I just can't stand, the mare I could take or leave. I have just never found one I particularly like. They tend to be hot-headed and hard keepers. But, I care for them the same as every other horse at our barn, because it's my job and because I love horses, even TB's.

    I am particular to QH, Paints and Appy's, although I do have an eye for Arabs. I love their beauty, but as my past mare showed me, I can't handle them.

    And everyone at my barn tends to hate on Morgans, yet the most beloved horse is a 20 year old QH/Morgan named Scout.

    The point of this rant? People will be biased no matter the type of animal. People are biased on dog breeds, cat breeds, Hell even Guinea pigs have breed bias. There is nothing we can do, except accept it.
    Looks like my old fresh ottb didn't get the memo about being hot-headed and a hard keeper. He was the quietest thing I've had the pleasure of owning, and got fat off the whiff of an oily rag ;)
         
        10-21-2013, 11:20 AM
      #48
    Banned
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    Originally Posted by Kayty    
    Looks like my old fresh ottb didn't get the memo about being hot-headed and a hard keeper. He was the quietest thing I've had the pleasure of owning, and got fat off the whiff of an oily rag ;)
    Sounds like my JJ too, Kayty. Except for Arabs, I think ex-racing TBs get the worst breed bias raps.

    I can leave JJ standing in the pasture for a year, go out and throw a saddle on him and he's just as easy going and laid back as if I'd been riding him every week. So much for the 'crazy' TB stereotype. JJ never got that memo!
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        10-21-2013, 12:29 PM
      #49
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Sahara    
    What a silly notion. Everyone knows Paints are the best.
    hhahaha oh yes. I hate how in hunter flat classes I always get last just b/c Cade's a paint and she doesn't compare to the big chestnut and bay horses
         
        10-21-2013, 01:30 PM
      #50
    Weanling
    I think that discriminating on color is even more stupid. I've seen horses placed lower just because they have paint coloring, or have some appy spotting. I've seen some really nice horses that had the misfortune of being spotted not place well because I guess the judges didn't like them. I personally don't like the color, but a good horse is a good horse, and color often has little to do with conformation and athletic talent for a discipline like breed may. Not all colored horses are QH based. I've seen colored horses bred for all sorts of disciplines. Art Deco, anyone?
         

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