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    10-18-2008, 12:10 AM
  #1
Foal
Thumbs down New horse advice plz

I am in the market for a new horse. I am looking for a horse that may nee /could use some work. I do have some experience with horses, but by NO means an expert (as some of you well know). I want1)another buddy 2)another project 3)possibly a gelding. There are 4 mares in the barn now....and, no offence....but it is kinda the estrogen ocean in there!

SOOO, today I went and looked at a group of 4 horses for sale. 1 was out of my price range(saddlebred). The second, although not horrible by any means, seemed to have a bit of a temper with the other horses. Maybe it was just a fluke, but I shyed away.(arab)

The third was a 5yr QH mare, about 14hh. She was a dark sorrel (??). Super friendly, and came up to us in the pasture TO BE caught (all 4 did actually). She tied nice, danced a little for the saddling (nothing bad) but did want to raise her head for the bitt-ing. The owner rode her first, then let me. She is only plaugh reighned, did not respond to neck at all (no big deal). Didn't respond to leg commands, or voice (again, no prob). She did put her head down when we stopped on grass, but was responsive to my correction. Stood nice for dis/mount. (no pics...sorry) Externally, she appeared healthy. I kinda shyed away from another mare though.

Next was Levi, a 5-6yr Pinto gelding. He was mild and sweet, kissed hands, owner walked behind him like he'd never think of kicking. He was a touch stubborn in being led to the hitvhing post, but did as he was asked. I also rode him. He was a touch more demanding - responded to neck reigns some times, but listened when reinforced. Stood nice for dis/mount. Owner says he does like to escape from his halter. The only problem I saw with Levi is that he has white on him (from a maintenance / cleaning standpoint). Maybe I'm being superfiscial (sp?) ...dunno.
Levi has one blue eye and one brown. If it wasn't for the....well, the under side dookus hangy thingy.... I would have thought he was a mare!





Well, I went home to think about it. Then I found this Craigslist ad...

<----cut/paste---->
mahogany bay roan mare - $500

I have 3 rescue horses that need homes before Nov. 1st or they will have to be euthanized.
6 yr. Mahogany (bay) roan mare. She's a big mare, 15+ hh
She is super quiet.
She has been saddled. She is not broke.
She has a 2 month foal, still nursing. He is bay and will roan. He is half arab.
She loads and ties.
Current on vacc and hooves
Will make a nice 4-H / trail horse
No coggins
Email for pictures
Any offer considered
Has Ranch horse papers.

<------end cut/paste----->

OK, after reading the first line....the pony lover in me overflowed.
After further investigation, I found there are 3 horse, the mare, a roan yearling, and a foal (pics below). I already emailed the owner and said I wouldn't let these guys be put down, barring any heath issues beyond reasonable repair.



Yearling



Mare



Foal


The foal/yearling do not bother me. I wasn't LOOKING for those, but I am more than glad/happy to either take over and find homes and/or fall in love and keep them and work with them (as aplicable).

You now know what I know. Advice??? Thoughts????
     
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    10-18-2008, 12:42 AM
  #2
Showing
So ...I don't understand. You have to many horses already, bad enough in fact you're going to put them down yet...you're looking for another one??

Please clarify:roll:
     
    10-18-2008, 01:06 AM
  #3
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by My2Geldings    
so ...I don't understand. You have to many horses already, bad enough in fact you're going to put them down yet...you're looking for another one??

Please clarify:roll:
Oh, no.... I may have misled you...

I am interested in aquiring another horse. I own 1 horse. There are 3 more where I stable mine at (not owned by me - the barn owners)

In my searches for another horse, I found the first two (mare and Levi) from one owner.
Then, I found another ad (where THAT owner wants to put them down - for what reason, I dunno). Those are the other 3 I found.

I was originally only looking for one. The addition of the yearling and foal is not a problem though - in other words I don't mind if they come as a package - it's not a problem.

I would never dream of putting any animal down (especially one of my ponys!) without good cause (teminally in pain or the like).

Hope I clarified for anyone in doubt.
     
    10-18-2008, 01:57 AM
  #4
Foal
I thought your post was very clear and easy to understand if you took the time to read it.
If you can afford to take all three rescues, do it! You can always find homes for them later if you don't want to keep them all. It just seems like a wonderful oppurtunity to give these horses a new chance at life.
Good luck and I wish you and your prospective horses all the best.
     
    10-18-2008, 03:09 AM
  #5
Foal
I can understand why you are interested in the rescue horses. The horse lover part of me (the large part) always feels inclined to buy the horse I can help the most and in a situation such as this one I would feel like I should buy the three horse package. Although, I think it is very important that you consider a few things. Firstly, the mare and yearling look quite nice (and the foal too I guess) so I would be wondering why they haven't already been sold. If the owner is going to put them down soon I imagine that she would have already tried to move them on. So I would be wondering why they haven't been sold already at such a low price. So regardless of how cheap they are I would get a vetcheck on atleast the mare.

Also, while it is important to help horses you don't want to get yourself in a position where you have horses that you don't want and cannot sell. Would you be keeping all of them? Remember you started out wanting a gelding, presumably a broken in gelding, and now you are considering getting an unbroken mare. Would you be breaking her in yourself or would you have to pay for someone to do it?

As far as the options go, if it were not for the euthanasia issue, I would say the pinto gelding is the best option. I think that you should consider if you want the mare, yearling and foal, if you can afford it, what you would do with it them and if they are really a good choice. It would be nice to save them, but it isn't your responsibility to do that, and you don't want to end up putting yourself in a bad position.

Don't rush into anything, and especially careful with the rescue horses.

Good luck.
     
    10-19-2008, 04:22 PM
  #6
Started
I like the mare.


Lol.
I didn't really read much of anything though so I could be completely frazzled.
:roll:
     
    10-20-2008, 11:53 AM
  #7
Green Broke
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andi    
I can understand why you are interested in the rescue horses. The horse lover part of me (the large part) always feels inclined to buy the horse I can help the most and in a situation such as this one I would feel like I should buy the three horse package. Although, I think it is very important that you consider a few things. Firstly, the mare and yearling look quite nice (and the foal too I guess) so I would be wondering why they haven't already been sold. If the owner is going to put them down soon I imagine that she would have already tried to move them on. So I would be wondering why they haven't been sold already at such a low price. So regardless of how cheap they are I would get a vetcheck on atleast the mare.

Also, while it is important to help horses you don't want to get yourself in a position where you have horses that you don't want and cannot sell. Would you be keeping all of them? Remember you started out wanting a gelding, presumably a broken in gelding, and now you are considering getting an unbroken mare. Would you be breaking her in yourself or would you have to pay for someone to do it?

As far as the options go, if it were not for the euthanasia issue, I would say the pinto gelding is the best option. I think that you should consider if you want the mare, yearling and foal, if you can afford it, what you would do with it them and if they are really a good choice. It would be nice to save them, but it isn't your responsibility to do that, and you don't want to end up putting yourself in a bad position.

Don't rush into anything, and especially careful with the rescue horses.

Good luck.
good advice!
     
    10-20-2008, 12:44 PM
  #8
Foal
I do thank all for the advice. All in all, I wanted a gelding soley for the porpose of there are 4 mares there already, and a male in the mix may settle one of them down (there is a slightly flighty mare there). In light of current circumstances, a different barn on the property is now going to be utilized. As far as the training is concerned, I am looking for a project - kind of like what Ruby was - broke, but needed work and habits removed/altered. Honestly, I did not want a horse that is completely broke and "perfect" (I'll use THAT word loosly!), I wouldn't turn one down, but I belive I have a better time working with these gals than anything. If I do bite off more than I can chew, I do have resources that will break for me....but I'm hoping to keep this my project.

Well, this is what I came up with. I am not going to go into great detail on a public forum, because I only got 1 side of the story - and we all know there are 3 sides to a story (your story, my story and the truth!)

Two days ago, I spoke with the person who had the ad for the 3 horses. We are going to call her Sue. In Feb 08, there were circumstances that led to the mare and the yearling (well, filly at the time) being rescued. Under fed and neglected, Sue took these horses in and made temporary room for these two horses. Sue works as a equine nutritionist, and braught these horses back to health. Come to find out, the mare was with foal, so Aug 3, here comes the little stallion to make 3. From the above circumstances, the original owner was originally intended to take the 2 (now 3) horses back, under the stipulation she could prove the horses would be cared for and that the previos owner had proven responsibility enough, among some other stipulations. This was supposed to happen Oct. 1. To make a long story short, the previous owner did not meet the requirments agreed to, and had decided to avoid the red tape in the process and was going to steal the horses back presumably. There were events that unfolded that promted the hasty sale.

So we went and looked at them. The mare is very nice. She isn't personable (demanding attention) but will let you catch her, and takes commands quite well. She walked on command, trotted, backed and whoa-ed on command (verbal reinforced with halter pressure). She is about 15.2hh, but she is BIG! She's a plump pony now. She has been fed hay w/ alfalfa and a 14% protien grain mix. She lifted her feet well.

The yearling has not had much work done with her. She allows you to catch her. She has never been tied. She did stand nice when holding her feet. She did walk nice with a lead, and didn't mind human contact.

The foal (I called him a fawn while we were there ----derrrp!) is....well, a foal. He has never been handled. He riminded me of a typical 5 year old child.

After some thought, we loaded them up and brought them home. The mare walked and worked well for me around the yard - as expected. The yearling was the same. Walked nice, pulled a bit when asked to stop, but quickly figured out what I wanted. I wrapped one wrap of his lead around the pole (to simulate tieing, but able to be released in a panic) she pulled a bit for a moment, and relaxed.

The foal - wellwhen we got him off the trailer, he was afriad of anyone coming near him. After about 5 minutes of slow calm work, he will walk sucessfully on a lead rope. Now he'll let you grab his halter and doesn't mind. He has also found out that he likes the brush.

I belive the ultimate intention, is attempt to sell the yearling. If she sell to a good home, great, if not , she will get raised up, trained, broke and then possibly sold. That option is out there too. The foal...it depends. If he stays black, he will stay a stallion, barring a hot temper ect. If he roans out, well, he may be gelded, sold, or trained - or some combination thereof.


So - pics to come!
     
    10-20-2008, 06:48 PM
  #9
Showing
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheVelveteenPony    
I thought your post was very clear and easy to understand if you took the time to read it.
If you can afford to take all three rescues, do it! You can always find homes for them later if you don't want to keep them all. It just seems like a wonderful oppurtunity to give these horses a new chance at life.
Good luck and I wish you and your prospective horses all the best.
..and that is why we have you to save the day.
     
    10-20-2008, 07:34 PM
  #10
Yearling
Lol haha.. Gosh!
     

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