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Newbie question re care and riding of Arabian/ half Arabian

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#1 ·
Please forgive my lack of knowledge but I am just starting out in the horse world. I have a 10 year old daughter who has ridden 8-10 times over the last couple of years (mostly trail rides and summer camp). She's been bugging me to take riding lessons.

Now a very dear friend whose daughter is outgrowing her Arabian show horse has offered to let us "borrow" the horse (they have several) for an extended period. I am a horse lover and have always wanted to get back to riding so I am pretty thrilled.

I have so many questions, many regarding the expense of care/feeding/ etc. First, however, I am wondering about the versatility of a show horse. I don't yet know the specifics of this horse except that he/she has been ridden at shows around the country by two young girls over the last few years. They ride in Arabian/ Half Arabian shows and just returned from a national competion in Albuquerque. Will my daughter be wedded to this kind of riding? I am not sure how narrow each horse's "specialty" is?

I would appreciate any thoughts you may have/questions I should ask/ resources/ etc.
 
#2 ·
Hello and welcome! I am new to this board but have been on a horse for 59 of my 61 years - lol

Yours is a very good question.

Some show horses are extremely adaptable to other venues such as trail riding. Some are not. It is not limited to a specific breed or mix breed.

I once looked at a gorgeous Morgan show mare who was terrified of the rustling of corn stalks as I tried to ride her down the tractor path at her owner's barn.

I once rescued a 5-gaited Saddlebred who was 17H and as big a baby as his 17H stature. He hyperventilated on the trails so I had to find him a "show home".

Then I bought a Morab (Morgan/Arab) who had gone ring sour so the owners wanted to sell her. From the second her front hooves hit the trail she thought she'd gone to heaven. She was a fantastic trail horse with very little coaching from me.

So regarding this Arab's ability to "switch gears", I would ask the current owners to ride her in the alternate environment you plan on using her in to see how she does. And with you watching :D

Also of importance is continuing to use the same bit as long as the horse is happy and performs well with it.

Saddle fit is important too. ESPECIALLY with Arabs as they are short backed and can sometimes have wide withers. My old Arab doesn't, but I have seen some that do.

Regarding feed. If the horse is doing well and is healthy, ask the current owners what and how much grain and hay they are feeding and feed the same.

The difference in amounts will vary according to how much pasture the horse will have once it comes to live with you.

LESS grain is always better unless the horse is going to be heavily worked every day.

I am dead set against sweet feeds of any type. So if this horse is being fed sweet feed, that would be the exception to my previous comment. Find something else :D

I hope this helps you some:)
 
#5 ·
To both Gail Croxton and Walkinthewalk WELCOME! WIW that is the best advice I have heard in a while! Good solid advice!

The only thing I can really add is that you really need to be around this horse and make sure he/she is the temperament you are looking for. Arabs have known to be hot. I have a half arab at the present time and he is hot as all get out! That's with months of being sent to a trainer! He was previously thought to be a Paso/QH cross. The vet now is sure he is arab/QH cross. (The previous owner said she couldn't remember if mom was Paso or Arab. (HELLO?? BIG DIFFERENCE!) Anywho, he has a special diet to help him"cool down" from being so hot headed. In saying that, he is my old faithful horse that I adore and will put anyone on WITH EXPERIENCE. He is just FAST!!! He was previously in the "Mexican Rodeo" for 7 years....AKA arena rodeo. He knows all the "dances" and everything. So it was really hard for himto go on the trail at first. He was WIDE EYED and everything was spooky! Lots of love, desensitizing, and training and now he is one hell of a trail horse and would make an even better endurance horse!

So, all in all, it depends on what you want to do with this horse and how hot it is. Some arabs are not hot at all, some are....
 
#6 ·
Thanks for the helpful information. I really appreciate hearing from folks who are experienced "horse people"!

BTW, any suggestions for resources for a beginner? I should probably start with riding stuff as my daughter will take lessons whether we get this horse or not. I will need to choose an instructor, get gear, etc. Any tips?

Thanks also for the warm welcome!
 
#7 ·
Hai there,

I think several members answered your first question beautifully, so ill comment on the second question..

As far as im concerned, a beginner rider should have the same equipment as a expirenced rider. Only ofcourse if there are two completly different disiplines... Things like a good fitted saddle, bridle, saddle cloth, sport boots maybe for the horse (depending, although i always like to wear brush boots when im riding), grooming gear... thats just for the horse.
Hope that helped alittle :wink:
 
#8 ·
I would say, if you are just going to give her lessons, on a school horse, you do not need tack. Usually riding facilities supply tack for the specific horse being ridden. I rode for 11 years without my own tack. Not until I found Willy did I ever have as much stuff as I do now!
 
#9 ·
Hello again and thank you all for the warm welcome! :D

ahearn said:
Arabs have known to be hot. I have a half arab at the present time and he is hot as all get out! That's with months of being sent to a trainer! Anywho, he has a special diet to help him"cool down" from being so hot headed. In saying that, he is my old faithful horse that I adore and will put anyone on WITH EXPERIENCE. He is just FAST!!! He was previously in the "Mexican Rodeo" for 7 years....AKA arena rodeo. He knows all the "dances" and everything. So it was really hard for himto go on the trail at first. He was WIDE EYED and everything was spooky! Lots of love, desensitizing, and training and now he is one hell of a trail horse and would make an even better endurance horse!

Some arabs are not hot at all, some are....
Yepper some Arabs and Arab/crosses are hot. The Arab/Saddlebred I had for 29 years was hot, but gentle as a newborn lamb.

The purebred 22 year old Arab I now have is about as laid-back as they can get - lol lol

I rescued my full Arab 15 years ago when he was 7. He was a starving horse poster child with an injured vertebra.

Streeter (sired by BackStreet) is affectionately referred to as "The Stoner Horse" by hubby :lol:

Streeter's philsophy has always been: "I don't care if I am three miles behind the rest of you. I will get there when I get there----just have me a cold Coor's Lite waiting" :lol: :lol:

Because of the vertabra injury Streeter quickly became a lesson horse for children under 12. He thrives on babies & toddlers mauling him and has given many children at least one happy horse memory :D

I agree about those "cool down" feeds for hot horses. No sweet feed :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
#11 ·
For equipment...first off, regardless of what style she's riding, buy her a helmet. Make her wear it. I have quite literally have my life saved on two separate occasions because I had my helmet on. People might complain that it's hot, it makes your head sweat, it makes you look funny, it gives you helmet hair, but I would have been brain-damaged or died without my helmet. Let me put it this way - my first bad fall was when I was 17, my helmet was absolutely smashed, I drove myself home but still had a concussion, so my mom took me to the ER. She ran into the doctor that had seen me in the ER (for a light concussion, a fairly common event) a few months ago - five and a half years later, he still remembered me, based on my helmet that I'd brought in to show the ER. I just rode for the first time in about nine years without a helmet last weekend, because I was riding with a friend who had never been on a horse before and she was nervous, and since I knew the horse I was riding and trusted him, I loaned her my helmet...it was one of the most nerve-wracking rides of my life. Once you're used to it, it's very weird to ride without one. A $40 investment sure beats the cost of an extended hospital stay or a funeral.

She might want some basic grooming tools. They don't have to be fancy - a hoofpick (I like the kind with a brush, but I also have the kind that's plain metal to stick in my pocket when I trail ride, in case of emergencies), a body brush, a soft brush, a rubber currycomb, that should be enough. The Oster tools are nice because they're more ergonomically design, but they're also about three times as expensive. Horsemen have been using the traditional tools for centuries, pretty much (I looked through a reprint of a tack catalog from the late 19th century once - it's amazing how little has changed).

Beyond that, it depends. Is she riding Western, English, or both? If she's not a very experienced rider, I suggest starting in English, if possible - much better for your balance. I started in Western and switched to English, and even though I like English better, if I haven't ridden in a while I'll do Western, because I know my balance will be terrible otherwise. I ride in jeans and a pair of basic cowboy boots - don't bother getting the super-fancy ones with rhinestones and pink leather and all that junk. My jeans and boots work for both Western and English, although when I get to the point where I can ride on a regular basis and I'm riding English more, I'm going to buy some breeches and boots. Beginning equipment doesn't have to be fancy - remember, a lot of girls her age will like horses for a while, until they discover there are far more fascinating creatures, boys. Not that this will necessarily happen (my mom thought it would with me, and fourteen years later, I'm about to graduate with a degree in Animal Science because I still like horses!), but it does happen quite a lot.

If I can help you out anymore, PM me. I'll send you my phone number and I can talk to you about it if you'd like.
 
#12 ·
Oh, and as far as finding an instructor goes - you want someone who's patient and has safety as the first priority. Take a look around the barn (any instructor who's worth hiring will let you do this) and make sure the aisles are clear. Look in the stalls and see if they look fairly clean. Check out the horses and see if they look happy and cared for. Look at the fences and make sure they're in good condition. Observe a lesson (again, a good instructor should have no problem with this) and see how the instructor treats students. Does he or she treat them calmly and with respect? Find out how many shows they attend every year, and how many students they take. Look at as much of the facility as possible - when I was 15, I traded work for lessons at a place that I wouldn't consider riding at now. The instructor was all right, but the owners were snobby and rude, the lesson horses were treated horribly (they were almost all mares, and they would breed them, ride them until they were two weeks to a month from foaling, and start using them again two weeks to a month after foaling) and their stalls were awful. The boarded horses on the other side of the barn had nicer stalls, but they didn't get nearly as much turnout time as I'm sure the barn owners were telling their owners - I know some of those horses would spend all day in their stalls, which had absolutely horrible lighting. I felt sorry for them, must have been like living in a hole. Ask around - talk to vets, feed and tack shop owners, people like that, and find out who they recommend and what the local grapevine has to say.
 
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