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post #21 of 38 Old 06-22-2010, 06:34 PM
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If it had black legs/mane/tail, zebra stripes, and a dorsal stripe whoever registered it as a red dun had no idea what they were talking about.

Red dun is basically a chestnut horse with a dun gene, they won't have any black markings. A bay (or zebra) dun is a bay horse with a dun gene, they have black markings. My horse is a bay dun and my friend has a red dun. Their coloration is nothing alike, except that they both have zebra stripes, dorsal stripes, wither marks, mask, etc. The red dun's dun factor markings are all a deep red color and Soda's are black on the legs and reddish on the rest of the body (because the black is restricted to the points due to agouti).

Any color guru is free to correct me where I got something wrong, I know I don't know everything about color.

For examples:

Soda - a bay or "zebra" dun
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Dangit I don't have the pic of my friends horse on the comp. Let me look

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post #22 of 38 Old 06-22-2010, 06:38 PM
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If it had black legs/mane/tail, zebra stripes, and a dorsal stripe whoever registered it as a red dun had no idea what they were talking about.

Red dun is basically a chestnut horse with a dun gene, they won't have any black markings. A bay (or zebra) dun is a bay horse with a dun gene, they have black markings. My horse is a bay dun and my friend has a red dun. Their coloration is nothing alike, except that they both have zebra stripes, dorsal stripes, wither marks, mask, etc. The red dun's dun factor markings are all a deep red color and Soda's are black on the legs and reddish on the rest of the body (because the black is restricted to the points due to agouti).

Any color guru is free to correct me where I got something wrong, I know I don't know everything about color.
I thought the same thing when I got his papers! I was thinking "what?" I just always called him a buckskin.

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If he looked buckskin but had the dorsal stripe & leg barring, then he was probably a bay/brown dun, like the one MN Tigerstripes posted. Buckskin is caused by the cream gene, which is a completely separate thing from the dun gene. Did it say on his papers what colours his parents were?
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post #24 of 38 Old 06-22-2010, 07:35 PM
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I do agree with everyone else though. Just a type of chestnut. In order to be a dun, one of the parents MUST be a dun and they have to have that dorsal stripe. Dun is probably my favorite color. My first horse was a regular bay dun. She was the brown color with black mane, tail and legs with the barring on her legs and dorsal stripe. There is also the grulla which is black based horse with the dun gene. You can get dunalinos, Chestnut/sorrel with dun and creme gene. The list goes on and on. Here is my red dun filly as a yearling. Below her is a picture of a weanling red dun with the champagne gene added on.
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post #25 of 38 Old 06-23-2010, 10:34 AM
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If he looked buckskin but had the dorsal stripe & leg barring, then he was probably a bay/brown dun, like the one MN Tigerstripes posted. Buckskin is caused by the cream gene, which is a completely separate thing from the dun gene. Did it say on his papers what colours his parents were?

I'm not sure I'd have to dig his papers out to look. But that is definitely a possibility!

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post #26 of 38 Old 06-23-2010, 05:55 PM
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Thank you :)

Yes that's the general consensus, he's a chestnut, just like he was registered!
(a more unique one than I've seen)
A red dun buckskin sounds gorgeous!
Thanks again
I have an AQHA gelding almost the identical color....maybe a little darker. My gelding is definitely a chestnut with some dun points (he has leg barring). His mane and tail are a dark brown and almost look black if he's kept out of the sun.
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post #27 of 38 Old 06-23-2010, 08:18 PM
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he's only a red dun if he has a dorsal stripe down his back & butt....
he looks like a regular chestnut to me....
if every bit of his mane & tail was black, and below his knees & hocks was BLACKBLACK, he would be a bay.

real cute horse, though!
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Clair im not an expert but people say im pretty good.i have a 'golden dun' myself! shes registered as a red dun, but she looks just about the same as the golden dun pic.!she has tan/copper coat,red/black/light yellow,mane and tail!

There is no bad color for a good horse!

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If it had black legs/mane/tail, zebra stripes, and a dorsal stripe whoever registered it as a red dun had no idea what they were talking about.

Red dun is basically a chestnut horse with a dun gene, they won't have any black markings. A bay (or zebra) dun is a bay horse with a dun gene, they have black markings. My horse is a bay dun and my friend has a red dun. Their coloration is nothing alike, except that they both have zebra stripes, dorsal stripes, wither marks, mask, etc. The red dun's dun factor markings are all a deep red color and Soda's are black on the legs and reddish on the rest of the body (because the black is restricted to the points due to agouti).

Any color guru is free to correct me where I got something wrong, I know I don't know everything about color.

For examples:

Soda - a bay or "zebra" dun
Attachment 33876

Dangit I don't have the pic of my friends horse on the comp. Let me look

That's the exact color my old horse was!

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post #30 of 38 Old 06-24-2010, 11:45 AM
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LOL, well then he was a bay dun. It's a relatively common mistake though, I've had actual arguments with people telling me Soda is a buckskin... Now I just shake my head and shut my mouth if they persist in arguing after the initial explanation
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