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post #1 of 17 Old 10-19-2010, 06:34 PM Thread Starter
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Off the track Thoroughbreds or Standardbreds? Which do you prefer, and why?
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post #2 of 17 Old 10-19-2010, 06:44 PM
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I've owned both. I value temperament and Standardbred is much better than the TB in that sense. I have heard countless stories of wonderful TBs yet have only met a handful of ones I consider to be "good riding horses". The other 95% I think are not suitable for children/teens, and are not suitable for pleasure horses, or versatile and safe enough for all-rounders. That just leaves the competitors, in which case there are many better breeds of purpose-bred horses for competition.

TBs have moments, they can be great 90% of the time, but sometimes they seem to flip out it seems. Its not something that you can train out because it doesn't occur often enough. Even when TBs are behaving well Standies are still quieter and calmer.

TBs are prettier, but if you want a pretty horse go buy a nice arab cross or something, there are far prettier horses around.

I think Standies have heaps of potential, but the fact that they're so quiet seems to be do their detriment, as far as reputation goes. So many inexperienced people purchase them because of how quiet and calm they are, and ride them but fail to retrain them up to standard. This means that there are heaps of untrained Standies, which gives people the impression that they are untrainable, or difficult.
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I myself prefer OTTBs but that is a personal choice. I like their movement and I like the fact that you never have to worry about them pacing.

I have never owned a Standie, but have owned 3 OTTBs. One was a great all round horse - anyone could ride him including kids. One liked to run but was sweet on the ground. The last was a b!tch on the ground, but had great potential under saddle.

In terms of trainability, each breed has different issues. TBs are taught to run, which can make them dangerous for a beginner if they have had no further training. Standies are usually (not always) unbacked until they are rehomed after racing. This can be a good thing, since there are no bad habits under saddle that need to be retrained. The down side is that you have to know how to train them to trot and not pace.

There is a stigma attached to standies in Australia. For me, I see a horse that doesn't move correctly 100% of the time. Being someone who is almost entirely focussed on dressage, it means a lot in my view. But I often will go trail riding on standies, and they are reliable mounts. It all depends on your level of experience, what you intend to do with them, and how far you are willing to go to overcome their previous training.

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Coming from someone who has broke BOTH, actually.. mulitiple of both.. thoroughbreds. Standardbreds are quick learners and laid back, generally speaking. But as far as talent and conformation go, i personally believe thoroughbreds to have a bigger shot. I was training two at the same time. Here's my video of it :

The black horse "Gambler's Legacy" is a standardbred. He was an incredibly fast learner. That first jump of him was his first ever jump, then his first ever verticle.. he was a sweetheart, but in the end.. never would have made it in the hunters, jumpers, etc. NOT dissin' standy's but a otsb and a homebred standardbred are generally different builds and muscle tones anyways..

Then the chestnut is a thoroughbred, "Made You Look". he's a little harder to ride, but overall will more tweaking and training he's alot more compatible for the hunter circuit as well as many other english shows. He's an ottb.

This video is also a year old and it was incredibly hot that day. So by the third pony.. My cute little mustang "Count My Strides".. i was obviously way off lol. JUST so i feel better about myself, i'm posting a video of us training jumpers.

Count My Strides - Shane, Bought 2-18-06, Mustang.
"I whispered to my horse, "i'm afraid of falling" and he whispered back, "i have wings".
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also adding ** that my pony did trip, lol it was incredibly awkward and obviously not expected. he's very athletic, so don't judge it . ;) haha.

draw reins : i don't use them ever anymore. they're stupid and lesson learned, they're not proper aids.. don't use them unless you are absolutely positive they're going to help your horse. now i'm done stating my case haha.

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Thanks for posting the videos! It was really fun to compare them side by side.

Anyone else have videos?
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post #7 of 17 Old 10-20-2010, 02:15 AM
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OTTBs .. without a doubt.

All the TBs I have owned/ridden/worked with have had amazing temprements and athletic ability.

They are just an amazing breed and will always be my personal favourite. I find they really out do the Standies in looks aswell(no offence standie people im sure there are some very nice ones out there.)

"If you can't see a thoroughbred has talent, you're probably too dumb to ride one anyway."
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post #8 of 17 Old 10-20-2010, 07:27 AM
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I dont think there is any way to truely judge an OTTB or an OTSB against each other because they are bred for seperate purposes. Yes they are both race horses, but it is still comparing apples to oranges. They dont even really have the same background as far as what breeds went into them. Their training is different. The things they are exposed to at the track are different.

I have trained SB's for racing. We put a ton of miles on them before even letting them start doing training miles. When they are first started, they are slowly worked up to "jogging" around the track for a 1/2 hour a day. Jogging being a SOLID trot the whole time. No dinking around.

Maybe an TB trainer can answer to how often and how many miles a young horse gets on them before going to the races.....??

Either way....The TB isnt going to build the same muscle that a SB is. Built for different things. You might as well compare a draft horse to a shetland.
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Well said VelvetsAB
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post #10 of 17 Old 10-20-2010, 05:22 PM
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Standies! But I guess that is because I own one. I have ridden OTTB before though. My own is so quiet, she is a dream to do anything with first horse that I have meant that stands still to have her teeth floated. I started her under saddle, loves to do anything, she was a trotter but I've caught her gaiting (not sure if it was the pace). Taught her to jump to get her canter, and now she'll jump anything (including anything that isn't at least 4' tall.)and probably go higher (if my fences weren't 4' 6" tall). I can't say enough for the six standies I've handled, but that is only six of a breed.
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