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        01-07-2010, 10:59 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    She's a frame overo. Not a good idea to breed her
         
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        01-07-2010, 11:39 PM
      #12
    Green Broke
    Just curious why should you not breed frame overo?
         
        01-08-2010, 12:47 AM
      #13
    Yearling
    Being frame does not mean she shouldn't be bred (not based on color alone), she just shouldn't be bred to another frame (tested frame, they're not all obvious).
         
        01-08-2010, 01:09 AM
      #14
    Trained
    She is a frame overo...

    I probably wouldn't breed her based on her conformation, not because she could be LW...
         
        01-08-2010, 01:23 AM
      #15
    Foal
    Very cute pic. She looks like a horse that I know ; D
         
        01-08-2010, 05:06 PM
      #16
    Foal
    LOL you only just realized that? Haha =D. So how do you know she's a 'farme' overo? Is it because the chestnut patches sort of frame the white? (Her left eye is blue if you wondering lol)
         
        01-08-2010, 06:59 PM
      #17
    Started
    Neither - she's a tovero.

    I took this right from the APHA website and I've bolded the ones that apply to your horse.



    Tobiano:



    The dark color usually covers one or both flanks.

    Generally, all four legs are white, at least below the hocks and knees.

    Generally, the spots are regular and distinct as ovals or round patterns that extend down over the neck and chest, giving the appearance of a shield.

    Head markings are like those of a solid-colored horse--solid, or with a blaze, strip, star or snip.

    The tail is often two colors.





    Overo:



    The white usually will not cross the back of the horse between its withers and its tail.

    Generally, at least one and often all four legs are dark.

    Generally, the white is irregular, and is rather scattered or splashy.

    Head markings are distinctive, often bald-faced, apron-faced or bonnet-faced.

    The tail is usually one color.





    Tovero:



    Dark pigmentation around the ears, which may expand to cover the forehead and/or eyes.

    One or both eyes blue.

    Dark pigmentation around the mouth, which may extend up the sides of the face and form spots.

    Chest spot(s) in varying sizes. These may also extend up the neck.

    Flank spot(s) ranging in size. These are often accompanied by smaller spots that extend forward across the barrel, and up over the loin.

    Spots, varying in size, at the base of the tail. (I'm not really sure what this one means, and the painting of the horse they use as an example doesn't show any spots around its tail.)
         
        01-08-2010, 07:06 PM
      #18
    Yearling
    Sometimes you can't tell frame by looking, but she is a classic frame, and yes the color frames the white! Frame and Splash are my favorite patterns, and her's is very pretty!
         
        01-08-2010, 07:14 PM
      #19
    Foal
    I would say Overo. I have a Tovero and the white as far as I'm aware of has to cross the spine. Her's doesn't. Here is a picture of my Tovero gelding...see how he's 50/50 with the flank spots, medicene hat, and chest shield? But the white also crosses his spine (and he has a spot on his rump and a butt shield ;) )


         
        01-08-2010, 07:18 PM
      #20
    Started
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    Originally Posted by Nickers2002    
    I have a Tovero and the white as far as I'm aware of has to cross the spine. Her's doesn't.
    According to APHA, it doesn't have to. Her horse has 3/5 tobiano characteristics and 3/5 overo characteristics, so he's a mixture between the two.

    He also has either 5/6 or 6/6 tovero characteristics (I'm not sure what the last one means).
         

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