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    01-15-2009, 04:12 PM
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Weanling
Paint horse

I never got the straights on whether a Paint is just a color or a breed, but someone once told me it was definitely a breed. Anyhow, my mother is one of those that just thinks a horse looks "pretty" and me, having had so much riding and horse judging for years on end can't just say that a horse is truly pretty until I've looked at everything in detail. So therefore I cannot let her look for one by herself. Anyhow I like those bay thoroughbred or warmblood breeds in a plain color so I don't know anything about looking at a paint. So anyone out there know what I should be looking for in order to find a good-looking paint? Also she was looking at petfinder.com which means we'd be adopting a horse, which is a very good thing but I have no experience with adopting. Is that a good idea and what should I be cautious of? Please advise..
     
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    01-15-2009, 04:17 PM
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Paint is a breed of horse. Pinto is a color. Most paints are spotted but not all are. I'd ask a local horse trainer to assist you in making a good choice. Pretty is as pretty does. Our boy is beautiful but we had not met him in person until he came home. Our trainer picked him out. We thought it was much more important to choose a good horse than to pick a pretty one. Thankfully, Joshua is both!




     
    01-15-2009, 04:52 PM
  #3
Weanling
Exactly.. Paint is a breed. Typically Paints were derived from QH and TB that had color, and could be recognized when cross breed with either.

It is important to look at the horse you are buying in full, and not at color as the deciding factor. Quality, temperment, confirmation, foundation and so on. When looking at the horses confirmation, of course you will look at everything you would on any other breed. One with good QH or TB features and build is a place to start. One thing I have noticed with Paints over other breeds, is that in a sense they are more emotionally engaged, LOL!
     
    01-15-2009, 10:14 PM
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A paint is a breed AND a color. The breed American Paint horse has to have at least one registered APH parent. Then they are considered an APH. Now horses with paint MARKINGS can be registered with the American Pinto Horse Assosiantion(?). They have to have at least two of the paint horse markings. Paints are a "stock" breed, but they can do ANYTHING! I really can't think of one thing a paint can't do. And all those people who say "Paints can't jump" don't know what they are talking about. Now for looking at a horse, you look at the personality, is it sound, is it obediant on the ground and under saddle, does it do what you ask without a fuss, will it load, clip, tie, and be groomed and tacked without a fuss. Will it be caught eaisily in the feild? Then you can look at color. I would have YOUR vet and farrier look at the horse. Not the owners no matter what they say. And if it seems like the horse isn't acting right or the owners cover things up, I would not look far into the horse. And make sure the horses legs are allined right and all that stuff(vet can help you with that). Wow that was alot of info! Hope I helped and anyone correct me if I am wrong, because I DO NOT want to be giving out false info!
     
    01-15-2009, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by StormyBlues    
A paint is a breed AND a color. The breed American Paint horse has to have at least one registered APH parent. Then they are considered an APH. Now horses with paint MARKINGS can be registered with the American Pinto Horse Assosiantion(?). They have to have at least two of the paint horse markings.
A paint is a breed, not a color. Paint=breed. A paint may be a pinto but a pinto may or may not be a paint (APHA).
     
    01-15-2009, 11:00 PM
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A paint is a breed AND a color. The breed American Paint horse has to have at least one registered APH parent. Then they are considered an APH. Now horses with paint MARKINGS can be registered with the American Pinto Horse Assosiantion(?). They have to have at least two of the paint horse markings. Paints are a "stock" breed, but they can do ANYTHING! I really can't think of one thing a paint can't do. And all those people who say "Paints can't jump" don't know what they are talking about. Now for looking at a horse, you look at the personality, is it sound, is it obediant on the ground and under saddle, does it do what you ask without a fuss, will it load, clip, tie, and be groomed and tacked without a fuss. Will it be caught eaisily in the feild? Then you can look at color. I would have YOUR vet and farrier look at the horse. Not the owners no matter what they say. And if it seems like the horse isn't acting right or the owners cover things up, I would not look far into the horse. And make sure the horses legs are allined right and all that stuff(vet can help you with that). Wow that was alot of info! Hope I helped and anyone correct me if I am wrong, because I DO NOT want to be giving out false info!
I agree with StormyBlues. A Paint is both a breed anda color like the Palomino is both a breed and a color. You can have registered Paint breed horses and you can have horses registered in the Paint association who are different breeds like you can have horses who are palomino in color and palomino in breed association.

I have a very close friend who has a mare that is painted in color and is going through the registration process to be registered as a pain and that same friend also has a gelding who is a Paint breed and color and is registered.

Likewise I have a, not close, but a friend who owns a palomino horse that is registered as a Palomino breed and this same friend owns another horse that is just a palomino quarterhorse.

So yes, a Paint is a breed while a painted horse is a color.
     
    01-15-2009, 11:13 PM
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like the Palomino is both a breed and a color. .
A palomino is NOT a breed. There are QH palominos, TB palominos and even WB palominos.

It is a color.
     
    01-15-2009, 11:15 PM
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I agree with StormyBlues. A Paint is both a breed anda color like the Palomino is both a breed and a color. You can have registered Paint breed horses and you can have horses registered in the Paint association who are different breeds like you can have horses who are palomino in color and palomino in breed association.


So yes, a Paint is a breed while a painted horse is a color.


American Paint Horse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The American Paint Horse is a breed of horse that combines both the conformational characteristics of a western stock horse with a pinto spotting pattern of white and dark coat colors. Developed from a base of spotted horses with Quarter Horse and Thoroughbred bloodlines, the American Paint Horse is now one of the fastest-growing breeds in North America.

Breeds of Livestock - Pinto Horse
The Pinto horse is a color breed in contrast to most other breeds which are defined by their genetic ancestry.

Palomino - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Palomino is a coat color in horses, consisting of a gold coat and white mane and tail.

PALOMINO HORSE ASSOCIATION

A Paint is a breed of horse. A Pinto is a color of horse. The Palomino and Pinto registries are color, NOT breed registries.

     
    01-17-2009, 11:29 AM
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A palomino is NOT a breed. There are QH palominos, TB palominos and even WB palominos.

It is a color.
nope nope nope nope. No such thing as a TB palomino. Can't happen. It can be a cross breed but palomino does not happen in a TB.
     
    01-17-2009, 11:57 AM
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nope nope nope nope. No such thing as a TB palomino. Can't happen. It can be a cross breed but palomino does not happen in a TB.

Palomino Filly in Keeneland Sale | bloodhorse.com



Splash of Vanilla, a filly by Ballado Chieftan, probably will attract plenty of attention at the upcoming Keeneland January horses of all ages sale in Lexington because of her golden color. She is registered as a palomino.
It will be the first time Keeneland has offered a palomino Thoroughbred in Director of Sales Geoffrey Russell’s memory.
“I was surprised,” Russell said. “I didn’t know that The Jockey Club registered Thoroughbreds as palominos, but they obviously do. It will add a little bit of an extra twist to the sale like it does when we sell white horses.”
Produced by the Guaranteed Gold mare Maid of Gold TB, who is also registered with The Jockey Club as a palomino, Splash of Vanilla is from the family of stakes winner Knight’s Turn. Her consignor is Triple B Stables. The filly was bred in Minnesota by Thomas Bentley and Kevin E. Lay.
Splash of Vanilla, who will be 2-years-old when she is offered next year at Keeneland, is one of 31 horses in the foal crop of 2007 that is registered as a palomino, according to The Jockey Club.

And here is a farm that has several PALOMINO TB stallions.

Issue of Gold
     

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