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    11-01-2009, 05:02 PM
Paints are a breed..(stock horse/tb lines). Pinto is a color. It's the Paint markings on any breed. So a Paint can be a Pinto, but not all Pintos can be Paints...sorry if that was confusing.
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    11-01-2009, 11:04 PM
You can register solid paint horses with AQHA. I have a mare that if I paid $1000.00 I could get her AQHA papers. Her sire is a QH and her dam is a paint. Same thing with my gray mare PT. The APHA was mostly started from cropouts of the AQHA. Leo was a great starter for the APHA. He had produced several cropouts to the APHA.
    11-01-2009, 11:47 PM
A paint is a breed. Paint's don't have to be spotted, though. They can be solid-colored. A pinto is the spotted coloring associated with paints
    11-01-2009, 11:52 PM
This is my Clydesdale/Paint mix that is pinto-colored:

Here's a picture I found online of a paint that is chestnut colored:

    11-02-2009, 12:30 AM
If a horse is QH x QH with enough color it can be considered an APHA registrable paint as well. They are called "Crop outs" in the APHA world. Paints are, Paint x Paint, Paint x QH, QH x QH with color, or Paint x TB. :) My parents bred paints for 20 years ;) Also, as someone else mentioned- Paints can be registered as Pintos because it's more of a color thing, but Pintos are rarely paints!
    11-02-2009, 02:26 AM
^^^ I could be wrong (as I don't own paints or QH), but I think the rule was changed recently, to where a Paint HAS to have a Paint registered parent now. I heard this was done now that AQHA did away with their white rule.
    11-02-2009, 02:34 AM
Oh really? My parents haven't registered a crop out since 2002, so that may be right!
    11-02-2009, 03:04 AM
Not sure, just what I think I recall hearing ;)
    11-02-2009, 07:30 AM
Pinto is a generic term to describe a MARKING not color

Paint is a bloodline

There is no such thing as a crop out. That has been proven over and over. There are minimally marked Tobianos that people mistake for a solid horse. So when that horse prodcues a pinto people think its a "crop out"

Most maximum overos are white with black dots in the ears. These are the horses that usually carry every pinto gene thus making them appear white. This also happens with maximum expression sabinos

My stallion lab tested to be Tobiano

My other stallion that is a lab tested visual frame over that also carries tobiano, splash and sabino

    11-02-2009, 10:02 AM
>>>> A paint is a breed. Paint's don't have to be spotted, though. They can be solid-colored. A pinto is the spotted coloring associated with paints

Both the American Paint Horse Assoc. (APHA) and the Pinto Horse Assoc. (PtHA) have registration classifications for solid-colored horses. Here are some details-
APHA.Com - Solid Paint Bred

(Scroll down to the question about the qualifications for solids to be registered as Pinto breeding stock.)

More general info on registering Pinto-- PtHA ? Registration

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